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From: Mike Galbraith <bitbucket@online.de>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Tony Luck <tony.luck@gmail.com>,
	eunb.song@samsung.com, Dmitry Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: EXT4 panic at jbd2_journal_put_journal_head() in 3.9+
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 07:18:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1368422306.5774.70.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130513033655.GE25996@thunk.org>

On Sun, 2013-05-12 at 23:36 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: 
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 08:11:59PM -0700, Tony Luck wrote:
> > 
> > My best guess as to why this commit causes problems is that there are places
> > where updates to individual fields in this structure used to be independent
> > because they were to whole words.  Now we have bitfileds there are races
> > between access to different fields in the same word.
> 
> Yeah, except we access the fields while holding a lock.... wait a
> minute.  We're using bit_spinlocks().... and am I missing something?
> 
> Where are the barrier statements to prevent the CPU or the compiler
> from reordering statements around bit_spin_lock()?  But if that's the
> problem, I would have expected lots of other things to be broken.

Those use test_and_set_bit(), which per Paul McMemory-Wizard...

ATOMIC OPERATIONS
-----------------

Whilst they are technically interprocessor interaction considerations, atomic
operations are noted specially as some of them imply full memory barriers and
some don't, but they're very heavily relied on as a group throughout the
kernel.

Any atomic operation that modifies some state in memory and returns information
about the state (old or new) implies an SMP-conditional general memory barrier
(smp_mb()) on each side of the actual operation (with the exception of
explicit lock operations, described later).  These include:

        xchg();
        cmpxchg();
        atomic_xchg();
        atomic_cmpxchg();
        atomic_inc_return();
        atomic_dec_return();
        atomic_add_return();
        atomic_sub_return();
        atomic_inc_and_test();
        atomic_dec_and_test();
        atomic_sub_and_test();
        atomic_add_negative();
        atomic_add_unless();    /* when succeeds (returns 1) */
        test_and_set_bit();
        test_and_clear_bit();
        test_and_change_bit();



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-13  5:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-13  2:21 Re: " EUNBONG SONG
2013-05-13  3:11 ` Tony Luck
2013-05-13  3:36   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-05-13  5:18     ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2013-05-13  6:14       ` Tony Luck
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-05-10  0:51 EUNBONG SONG
2013-05-10 17:27 ` Tony Luck
2013-05-11  7:52   ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-05-13  2:04     ` Tony Luck
2013-05-13  3:07       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-05-13  5:06         ` Sidorov, Andrei
2013-05-10 19:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-05-10 20:38   ` David Daney
2013-05-09  7:59 EUNBONG SONG
2013-05-09 15:31 ` Theodore Ts'o

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