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From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: Joe Jin <joe.jin@oracle.com>
Cc: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Frank Blaschka <frank.blaschka@de.ibm.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<zheng.x.li@oracle.com>, Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: kernel panic in skb_copy_bits
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:59:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1372928382.7184.16.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D53896.1060405@oracle.com>

On Thu, 2013-07-04 at 16:55 +0800, Joe Jin wrote:
> On 07/01/13 16:11, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 11:18 +0800, Joe Jin wrote:
> >>> A workaround is to turn off O_DIRECT use by Xen as that ensures
> >>> the pages are copied. Xen 4.3 does this by default.
> >>>
> >>> I believe fixes for this are in 4.3 and 4.2.2 if using the
> >>> qemu upstream DM. Note these aren't real fixes, just a workaround
> >>> of a kernel bug.
> >>
> >> The guest is pvm, and disk model is xvbd, guest config file as below:
> > 
> > Do you know which disk backend? The workaround Alex refers to went into
> > qdisk but I think blkback could still suffer from a variant of the
> > retransmit issue if you run it over iSCSI.
> > 
> >>> To fix on a local build of xen you will need something like this:
> >>> https://github.com/abligh/qemu-upstream-4.2-testing/commit/9a97c011e1a682eed9bc7195a25349eaf23ff3f9
> >>> and something like this (NB: obviously insert your own git
> >>> repo and commit numbers)
> >>> https://github.com/abligh/xen/commit/f5c344afac96ced8b980b9659fb3e81c4a0db5ca
> >>>
> >>
> >> I think this only for pvhvm/hvm?
> > 
> > No, the underlying issue affects any PV device which is run over a
> > network protocol (NFS, iSCSI etc). In effect a delayed retransmit can
> > cross over the deayed ack and cause I/O to be completed while
> > retransmits are pending, such as is described in
> > http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-nfs/msg34913.html (the original NFS
> > variant). The problem is that because Xen PV drivers often unmap the
> > page on I/O completion you get a crash (page fault) on the retransmit.
> > 
> 
> Can we do it by remember grant page refcount when mapping, and when unmap
> check if page refcount as same as mapping?  This change will limited in
> xen-blkback.
> 
> Another way is add new page flag like PG_send, when sendpage() be called,
> set the bit, when page be put, clear the bit. Then xen-blkback can wait
> on the pagequeue.

These schemes don't work when you have multiple simultaneous I/Os
referencing the same underlying page.

> 
> Thanks,
> Joe
> 
> > The issue also affects native but in that case the symptom is "just" a
> > corrupt packet on the wire. I tried to address this with my "skb
> > destructor" series but unfortunately I got bogged down on the details,
> > then I had to take time out to look into some other stuff and never
> > managed to get back into it. I'd be very grateful if there was someone
> > who could pick up that work (Alex gave some useful references in another
> > reply to this thread)
> > 
> > Some PV disk backends (e.g. blktap2) have worked around this by using
> > grant copy instead of grant map, others (e.g. qdisk) have disabled
> > O_DIRECT so that the pages are copied into the dom0 page cache and
> > transmitted from there.
> > 
> > We were discussing recently the possibility of mapping all ballooned out
> > pages to a single read-only scratch page instead of leaving them empty
> > in the page tables, this would cause the Xen case to revert to the
> > native case. I think Thanos was going to take a look into this.
> > 
> > Ian.
> > 
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-04  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-27  2:58 Joe Jin
2013-06-27  5:31 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-27  7:15   ` Joe Jin
2013-06-28  4:17   ` Joe Jin
2013-06-28  6:52     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-28  9:37       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-28 11:33         ` Joe Jin
2013-06-28 23:36         ` Joe Jin
2013-06-29  7:04           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-29  7:20           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-29 16:11             ` Ben Greear
2013-06-29 16:26               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-29 16:31                 ` Ben Greear
2013-06-30  0:26             ` Joe Jin
2013-06-30  7:50               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-01 20:36         ` David Miller
2013-06-30  9:13     ` Alex Bligh
2013-06-30  9:35       ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-01  3:18       ` Joe Jin
2013-07-01  8:11         ` Ian Campbell
2013-07-01 13:00           ` Joe Jin
2013-07-04  8:55           ` Joe Jin
2013-07-04  8:59             ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2013-07-04  9:34               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-04  9:52                 ` Ian Campbell
2013-07-04 10:12                   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-04 12:57                     ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-04 21:32                     ` David Miller
2013-07-01  8:29         ` Alex Bligh

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