From: Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
Mike Snitzer <msnitzer@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH] dm: Make MIN_IOS, et al, tunable via sysctl.
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:57:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1377035833.24869.57.camel@bobble.lax.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1308201745130.8826@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 17:47 -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Frank Mayhar wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 17:22 -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > On Fri, 16 Aug 2013, Frank Mayhar wrote:
> > > > The device mapper and some of its modules allocate memory pools at
> > > > various points when setting up a device. In some cases, these pools are
> > > > fairly large, for example the multipath module allocates a 256-entry
> > > > pool and the dm itself allocates three of that size. In a
> > > > memory-constrained environment where we're creating a lot of these
> > > > devices, the memory use can quickly become significant. Unfortunately,
> > > > there's currently no way to change the size of the pools other than by
> > > > changing a constant and rebuilding the kernel.
> > > I think it would be better to set the values to some low value (1 should
> > > be enough, there is 16 in some places that is already low enough). There
> > > is no need to make it user-configurable, because the user will see no
> > > additional benefit from bigger mempools.
> > >
> > > Maybe multipath is the exception - but other dm targets don't really need
> > > big mempools so there is no need to make the size configurable.
> >
> > The point is not to make the mempools bigger, the point is to be able to
> > make them _smaller_ for memory-constrained environments. In some cases,
> > even 16 can be too big, especially when creating a large number of
> > devices.
> >
> > In any event, it seems unfortunate to me that these values are
> > hard-coded. One shouldn't have to rebuild the kernel to change them,
> > IMHO.
>
> So make a patch that changes 16 to 1 if it helps on your system (I'd like
> to ask - what is the configuration where this kind of change helps?).
> There is no need for that to be tunable, anyone can live with mempool size
> being 1.
I reiterate: It seems unfortunate that these values are hard-coded. It
seems to me that a sysadmin should be able to tune them according to his
or her needs. Particularly when the same kernel is being run on many
machines that may have different constraints; building a special kernel
for each set of constraints doesn't scale.
And as I said, it's a memory-constrained environment.
--
Frank Mayhar
310-460-4042
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-20 21:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-09 17:48 Frank Mayhar
2013-08-13 16:41 ` Frank Mayhar
2013-08-16 22:58 ` Frank Mayhar
2013-08-17 12:30 ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2013-08-19 13:40 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-08-19 15:04 ` Frank Mayhar
2013-08-19 14:00 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-08-19 17:54 ` [dm-devel] " Frank Mayhar
2013-08-19 18:15 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-08-20 21:44 ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-08-20 21:52 ` Frank Mayhar
2013-08-20 21:41 ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-08-20 21:22 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-08-20 21:28 ` Frank Mayhar
2013-08-20 21:47 ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-08-20 21:57 ` Frank Mayhar [this message]
2013-08-20 22:24 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-08-20 22:52 ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-08-20 23:14 ` Frank Mayhar
2013-08-26 14:28 ` Mikulas Patocka
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