From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, ziy@nvidia.com,
baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, liam@infradead.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] khugepaged: fix readahead lock inversion in collapse_file()
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2026 00:27:15 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <137d6cc0-413d-465e-8476-a6fa14b5c2fe@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b47ec526-78b7-440f-a034-0a4d5137b549@kernel.org>
On 2026/10/27 21:58, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 10/27/26 14:05, Pedro Falcato wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 12:06:05PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> On 10/26/26 16:20, Lance Yang wrote:
>>>> collapse_file() can call page_cache_sync_readahead() while still holding
>>>> source folios locked. If truncate holds mapping->invalidate_lock
>>>> exclusively and waits for one of those folios, readahead waits for
>>>> invalidate_lock and neither side can make progress.
>>>>
>>>> We need to release those folio locks before starting readahead. On a page
>>>> cache miss, roll back first, populate the collapse range, and retry once.
>>>> Doing readahead after rollback avoids an extra pass when all folios are
>>>> already present. If another miss occurs on retry, give up rather than keep
>>>> retrying while truncate or reclaim removes folios.
>>>
>>> Makes sense. So we simply try readahead on all folios.
>>>
>>> Any reason we don't simply add a second loop after the first loop where we don't
>>> take the folio locks and do the swapin/readahead dance, then a second loop where
>>> we do all the other stuff?
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand. You want to nest two loops? Or do you want a loop
>> upfront? I don't think we want a loop upfont. That's slow and involves
>> starting/waiting for IO. Fallback logic makes more sense IMO.
>
> I'd have an earlier loop where we focus on filling holes, and grabbing folios
> then in the second loop only from the pagecache + trylocking them.
>
> That would make the second easier to the eye.
>
> collapse_scan() file could just indicate if there are any holes and whether
> looping makes sense at all. It already does a scan.
>
> So you could just skip the loop when there is no reason to readahead at all.
>
> This function is pretty horrible and the retry logic doesn't quite improve the
> situation.
>
> But no strong opinion for this fix as long as we clean it up properly later.
>
> (looking forward to reworks)
IIUC, we're good with the fix, so let's keep v4 as is and leave the cleanup
for the rework :)
Cheers, Lance
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-27 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-26 15:20 Lance Yang
2026-10-26 16:33 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-27 2:55 ` Lance Yang
2026-10-27 10:30 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-27 11:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 13:05 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-27 13:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 16:27 ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-10-27 19:03 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 19:44 ` Zi Yan
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