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From: Hui Zhu <hui.zhu@linux.dev>
To: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	JP Kobryn <inwardvessel@gmail.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Geliang Tang <geliang@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Hui Zhu <zhuhui@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 0/2] bpf: BPF-driven proactive memcg reclaim
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2026 11:31:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13813a74-1f1b-4fb5-a589-6eda1e99bd19@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DL7CFVDSDV92.1VPGNHDCKVVIV@gmail.com>


> On Fri Sep 4, 2026 at 12:20 PM CEST, Hui Zhu wrote:
>> From: Hui Zhu <zhuhui@kylinos.cn>
>>
>> BPF programs can observe memory pressure on a cgroup (e.g. refault
>> stats via bpf_mem_cgroup_page_state()), but cannot act on it:
>> triggering reclaim on a chosen cgroup requires writing to
>> memory.reclaim, which BPF cannot do. This series adds
>> bpf_proactive_reclaim(), a sleepable kfunc performing one proactive
>> reclaim pass on a target memcg, so when and how hard to reclaim is
>> BPF policy rather than hard-coded thresholds.
>>
>> The kfunc is restricted to BPF_PROG_TYPE_SYSCALL so that reclaim
>> always runs in a clean process context: generic sleepable programs
>> may execute with filesystem locks held or in NOFS/NOIO contexts,
>> where the reclaim path could deadlock in filesystem shrinkers. The
>> bpf_wq and task_work callbacks of a SYSCALL program keep its program
>> type and run in process context, so reclaim work can still be queued
>> asynchronously through them, as the selftest does with bpf_wq.
>>
>> The use case we are looking at is protecting high-priority workloads:
>> a BPF program monitors the state of a high-priority cgroup and, when
>> it degrades (e.g. PSI rises or refaults increase, as in the
>> selftest), asynchronously reclaims memory from low-priority cgroups
>> via bpf_wq and bpf_proactive_reclaim(), giving the pressured cgroup
>> more free pages.
>>
>> Another use case: several vendor-maintained kernels carry private
>> implementations that trigger asynchronous reclaim when a memcg enters
>> a certain state. These exist for historical and partly psychological
>> reasons, but the underlying demand is real. We expect BPF-driven
>> proactive reclaim, combined with the BPF hooks for the memory
>> controller currently under discussion and development, to serve these
>> needs in mainline, reducing kernel fragmentation and improving kernel
>> maintainability.
>  From BPF perspective this looks ok to me. I saw you dropped the swappiness
> argument, what happened there? I thought we agreed to just include it in the
> kfunc now. Did something change?

Nothing changed. I misunderstood the earlier discussion and dropped the
swappiness argument by mistake. The plan to include it in the kfunc
still stands, and I will add it back in the next version.

Best,
Hui


      reply	other threads:[~2026-09-07  3:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-04 10:20 Hui Zhu
2026-09-04 10:20 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 1/2] mm/bpf: Add bpf_proactive_reclaim kfunc Hui Zhu
2026-09-04 11:25   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-04 18:03   ` Andrew Morton
2026-09-05 11:23     ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-05 16:28       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-07  3:17         ` Hui Zhu
2026-09-04 10:20 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 2/2] selftests/bpf: Add memcg async reclaim test Hui Zhu
2026-09-04 11:25   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-05 11:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 0/2] bpf: BPF-driven proactive memcg reclaim Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-07  3:31   ` Hui Zhu [this message]

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