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From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Luciano Coelho <luca@coelho.fi>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, freemangordon@abv.bg,
	aaro.koskinen@iki.fi, pavel@ucw.cz, sre@ring0.de,
	joni.lapilainen@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file address for setting permanent mac address
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:46:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1382971562.1542.6.camel@dcbw.foobar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201310281500.24159@pali>

On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 15:00 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Monday 28 October 2013 14:55:22 Johannes Berg wrote:
> > On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 14:49 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Monday 28 October 2013 14:45:05 Johannes Berg wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:34 +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > Driver wl1251 generating mac address randomly at startup
> > > > > and there is no way to set permanent mac address via
> > > > > SET_IEEE80211_PERM_ADDR. This patch export sysfs file
> > > > > which can set permanent mac address by userspace helper
> > > > > program. Patch is needed for devices which do not store
> > > > > mac address in internal wl1251 eeprom.
> > > > 
> > > > This doesn't really seem like a good idea since you can
> > > > also just use 'ip' or whatever to set the MAC address.
> > > > 
> > > > johannes
> > > 
> > > AFAIK you cannot set permanent address (show by ethtool -P
> > > wlan0) via ip/ifconfig.
> > 
> > You probably can't, but that address also doesn't matter at
> > all and isn't really used anywhere.
> > 
> > johannes
> 
> There are some (proprietary) applications which using permanent 
> address for something...
> 
> And also more important: some network managing tools using it. 
> NetworkManager resetting current MAC address to permanent one 
> before starting configuring interface.
> 
> So this will lead to never use correct MAC address (but random 
> permanent one) assigned for that wl1251 wireless card...

If the device doesn't actually *have* a permanent MAC address, then it
shouldn't be returning one via ethtool, and should return an error for
ETHTOOL_GPERMADDR.  Setting the permanent MAC address shouldn't ever be
allowed except by the driver inspecting EEPROM, and certainly not via
sysfs.

mac80211 does have to do some special stuff due to virtual interfaces
and such, but in general, if the MAC address is randomly generated,
neither the driver nor mac80211 should be reporting that address as the
permanent address, only as the current one.

Dan



  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-28 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-26 20:33 [PATCH 00/16] wl1251 patches from linux-n900 tree Pali Rohár
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 01/16] mac80211: fix TX device statistics for monitor interfaces Pali Rohár
2013-10-28  5:53   ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-08  8:45     ` [PATCH] " Pali Rohár
2013-12-16 12:38       ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-28 13:47   ` [PATCH 01/16] " Johannes Berg
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 02/16] wl1251: fix scan behaviour while not associated Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:24   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 03/16] wl1251: add sysfs interface for bluetooth coexistence mode configuration Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 23:39   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-29  7:09     ` Luca Coelho
2013-10-29 13:35       ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-08  7:55     ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-08 16:36       ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 04/16] wl1251: retry power save entry Pali Rohár
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 05/16] wl1251: implement hardware ARP filtering Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:28   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 06/16] wl1251: split RX and TX data path initialisation Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:31   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 07/16] wl1251: configure hardware en-/decryption for monitor mode Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:35   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 08/16] wl1251: implement multicast address filtering Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:41   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 09/16] wl1251: disable power saving in monitor mode Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:46   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 10/16] wl1251: fix channel switching " Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:47   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 11/16] wl1251: enable tx path in monitor mode if necessary for packet injection Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:51   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 12/16] wl1251: disable retry and ACK policy for injected packets Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:52   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 13/16] wl1251: enforce changed hw encryption support on monitor state change Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:55   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 14/16] wl1251: add nvs file name to module firmware list Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:55   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 15/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file tx_mgmt_frm_rate for setting rate Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 13:45   ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 16/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file address for setting permanent mac address Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 13:45   ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-28 13:49     ` Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 13:55       ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-28 14:00         ` Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 14:46           ` Dan Williams [this message]
2013-10-28 14:56             ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-28 15:04               ` Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 15:29                 ` Dan Williams
2013-10-28 16:21                   ` Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 15:33               ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-10-28 23:50   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-11-08 14:20 ` [PATCH 00/16] wl1251 patches from linux-n900 tree Felipe Contreras
2013-11-25 19:54   ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-08  9:24 ` [PATCH v2 " Pali Rohár
2013-12-08  9:24   ` [PATCH v2 01/16] wl1251: fix scan behaviour while not associated Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:21     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-10 15:41       ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-10 17:08         ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-11 20:44           ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-31  9:44       ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 02/16] wl1251: add sysfs interface for bluetooth coexistence mode configuration Pali Rohár
2013-12-10 15:46     ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-10 16:09       ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 03/16] wl1251: retry power save entry Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:24     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 04/16] wl1251: implement hardware ARP filtering Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:29     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-10  9:59       ` Michal Kubecek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 05/16] wl1251: split RX and TX data path initialisation Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:31     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 06/16] wl1251: configure hardware en-/decryption for monitor mode Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:35     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-31  9:31       ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 07/16] wl1251: implement multicast address filtering Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:39     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 08/16] wl1251: disable power saving in monitor mode Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:41     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 09/16] wl1251: fix channel switching " Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:43     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 10/16] wl1251: enable tx path in monitor mode if necessary for packet injection Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:44     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 11/16] wl1251: disable retry and ACK policy for injected packets Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:46     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 12/16] wl1251: enforce changed hw encryption support on monitor state change Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:48     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 13/16] wl1251: add nvs file name to module firmware list Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:49     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 14/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file tx_mgmt_frm_rate for setting rate Pali Rohár
2013-12-09 16:50     ` Dan Williams
2013-12-10 15:36     ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 15/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file address for setting permanent mac address Pali Rohár
2013-12-10 15:49     ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-10 16:10       ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-10 17:14         ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-10 17:49           ` Dan Williams
2013-12-10 17:52             ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-10 19:22               ` Dan Williams
2013-12-10 19:31                 ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-11 21:26                   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-11 21:17               ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-11 21:28                 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-11 21:35                 ` Ivajlo Dimitrov
2013-12-11 22:15                   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-11 22:36                     ` Ivajlo Dimitrov
2013-12-12 12:45                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-12-11 22:53                     ` Dan Williams
2013-12-12 19:55                       ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-12 20:24                         ` Ivajlo Dimitrov
2013-12-12 10:56                 ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 16/16] wl1251: fix NULL pointer dereference Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:42     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-31  9:47   ` [PATCH v2 00/16] wl1251 patches from linux-n900 tree Pali Rohár
2014-01-06 20:00     ` John W. Linville
2014-01-06 20:26       ` Johannes Berg
2014-01-06 22:03       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-07 12:15       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-16  0:21       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-16 20:29         ` John W. Linville

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