From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
keir@xen.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, konrad@kernel.org,
david.vrabel@citrix.com, jbeulich@suse.com,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [XEN PATCH 1/2] hvm: Support more than 32 VCPUS when migrating.
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:33:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1397032397.31448.13.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140408185346.GA1678@phenom.dumpdata.com>
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 14:53 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 08:18:48PM +0200, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > On 08/04/14 19:25, konrad@kernel.org wrote:
> > > From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
> > >
> > > When we migrate an HVM guest, by default our shared_info can
> > > only hold up to 32 CPUs. As such the hypercall
> > > VCPUOP_register_vcpu_info was introduced which allowed us to
> > > setup per-page areas for VCPUs. This means we can boot PVHVM
> > > guest with more than 32 VCPUs. During migration the per-cpu
> > > structure is allocated fresh by the hypervisor (vcpu_info_mfn
> > > is set to INVALID_MFN) so that the newly migrated guest
> > > can do make the VCPUOP_register_vcpu_info hypercall.
> > >
> > > Unfortunatly we end up triggering this condition:
> > > /* Run this command on yourself or on other offline VCPUS. */
> > > if ( (v != current) && !test_bit(_VPF_down, &v->pause_flags) )
> > >
> > > which means we are unable to setup the per-cpu VCPU structures
> > > for running vCPUS. The Linux PV code paths make this work by
> > > iterating over every vCPU with:
> > >
> > > 1) is target CPU up (VCPUOP_is_up hypercall?)
> > > 2) if yes, then VCPUOP_down to pause it.
> > > 3) VCPUOP_register_vcpu_info
> > > 4) if it was down, then VCPUOP_up to bring it back up
> > >
> > > But since VCPUOP_down, VCPUOP_is_up, and VCPUOP_up are
> > > not allowed on HVM guests we can't do this. This patch
> > > enables this.
> >
> > Hmmm, this looks like a very convoluted approach to something that could
> > be solved more easily IMHO. What we do on FreeBSD is put all vCPUs into
> > suspension, which means that all vCPUs except vCPU#0 will be in the
> > cpususpend_handler, see:
> >
> > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/amd64/amd64/mp_machdep.c?revision=263878&view=markup#l1460
>
> How do you 'suspend' them? If I remember there is a disadvantage of doing
> this as you have to bring all the CPUs "offline". That in Linux means using
> the stop_machine which is pretty big hammer and increases the latency for migration.
Yes, this is why the ability to have the toolstack save/restore the
secondary vcpu state was added. It's especially important for
checkpointing, but it's relevant to regular migrate as a performance
improvement too.
It's not just stop-machine, IIRC it's a tonne of udev events relating to
cpus off/onlinign etc too and all the userspace activity which that
implies.
Ian.
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2014-04-08 17:25 ` [PATCH] Fixes for more than 32 VCPUs migration for HVM guests (v1) konrad
2014-04-08 17:25 ` [XEN PATCH 1/2] hvm: Support more than 32 VCPUS when migrating konrad
2014-04-08 18:18 ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2014-04-08 18:53 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-04-09 7:37 ` Roger Pau Monné
2014-04-09 15:34 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-04-09 15:38 ` David Vrabel
2014-04-09 15:55 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-04-09 8:33 ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2014-04-09 9:04 ` Roger Pau Monné
2014-04-09 9:06 ` Jan Beulich
2014-04-09 15:27 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-04-09 15:36 ` Jan Beulich
2014-04-22 18:34 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-04-23 8:57 ` Jan Beulich
2014-04-08 17:25 ` [LINUX PATCH 2/2] xen/pvhvm: Support more than 32 VCPUs " konrad
2014-04-09 8:03 ` Jan Beulich
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