From: Jim Keniston <jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
Anton Arapov <aarapov@redhat.com>,
David Long <dave.long@linaro.org>,
Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Lebon <jlebon@redhat.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative call's
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 21:05:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1397102752.8282.4.camel@oc7886638347.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1397078735.5261.20.camel@oc7886638347.ibm.com.usor.ibm.com>
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 14:25 -0700, Jim Keniston wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 17:43 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 04/08, Jim Keniston wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2014-04-06 at 22:16 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > 0xe8. Anything else?
>
> Oleg, thanks for responding to (if not necessarily agreeing with) all my
> suggestions. I think your code is solid, but I think we were wrong
> about one thing. See below.
Oops. Nope. You were right and I was wrong. See below.
>
> > >
> > > No, I think e8 is the only call instruction uprobes will see.
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > > The following couple of paragraphs should be included in the code,
> > > perhaps merged with some of the related comments already there. Without
> > > it, the code is pretty hard to follow.
> >
> > OK, I'll try to improve the comments somehow...
> >
> > > > Emulating of rip-relative call is trivial, we only need to additionally
> > > > push the ret-address. If this fails, we execute this instruction out of
> > > > line and this should trigger the trap, the probed application should die
> > > > or the same insn will be restarted if a signal handler expands the stack.
> > > > We do not even need ->post_xol() for this case.
> > > >
> > > > But there is a corner (and almost theoretical) case: another thread can
> > > > expand the stack right before we execute this insn out of line. In this
> > > > case it hit the same problem we are trying to solve. So we simply turn
> > > > the probed insn into "call 1f; 1:" and add ->post_xol() which restores
> > > > ->sp and restarts.
> > >
> > > Can you explain under what circumstances emulation of the call
> > > instruction would fail? Will the copy_to_user() call that writes the
> > > return address to the stack grow the stack if necessary?
> >
> > If necessary and if possible.
> >
> > > Will
> > > single-stepping the mangled call instruction expand the stack?
> >
> > In the likely case it won't. If copy_to_user() failes, then "call" should
> > fail too (again, ignoring the potential race with another thread which can
> > populate the memory ->sp - 8 points to).
>
>
> I've experimented with putting a uprobe on a call instruction (in a
> tight loop, with no ret) and a kprobe on expand_stack(), and my results
> seem to indicate that a single-stepped call instruction will
> successfully grow the stack vma where a call to copy_to_user() won't.
Nope. There was a bug in my test. copy_to_user() can indeed grow the
stack vma. So never mind.
>
> So your trick of single-stepping the mangled call after the failed
> emulation, and then retrying the emulation should come into play in more
> than just theoretical situations. We'd need it any time the probed call
> needs to grow the stack vma.
>
> I can send you the test kprobe/uprobe modules I used, if you like.
>
> Bottom line: no further code changes, but this would affect your
> comments.
>
> Jim
Jim
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-04 18:50 [PATCH v2 0/9] uprobes/x86: preparations to fix the reprel jmp/call handling Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] uprobes: Kill UPROBE_SKIP_SSTEP and can_skip_sstep() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] uprobes/x86: Fold prepare_fixups() into arch_uprobe_analyze_insn() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] uprobes/x86: Kill the "ia32_compat" check in handle_riprel_insn(), remove "mm" arg Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] uprobes/x86: Gather "riprel" functions together Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] uprobes/x86: move the UPROBE_FIX_{RIP,IP,CALL} code at the end of pre/post hooks Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] uprobes/x86: Introduce uprobe_xol_ops and arch_uprobe->ops Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 9:10 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-08 16:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 18:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 12:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-09 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 13:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] uprobes/x86: Conditionalize the usage of handle_riprel_insn() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] uprobes/x86: Send SIGILL if arch_uprobe_post_xol() fails Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] uprobes/x86: Teach arch_uprobe_post_xol() to restart if possible Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 21:56 ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-05 12:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 19:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] uprobes/x86: preparations to fix the reprel jmp/call handling Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 19:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 23:44 ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-06 20:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] uprobes/x86: " Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-06 20:16 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate unconditional rip-relative jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 20:36 ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-09 14:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-06 20:16 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate nop's using ops->emulate() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-06 20:16 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] uprobes/x86: Introduce sizeof_long(), cleanup adjust_ret_addr() and arch_uretprobe_hijack_return_addr() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 20:34 ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-07 20:42 ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-06 20:16 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative call's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 22:26 ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-09 15:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 21:25 ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-10 4:05 ` Jim Keniston [this message]
2014-04-10 13:41 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 13:57 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-10 14:20 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-11 3:03 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-11 12:23 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-14 14:22 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-18 15:17 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 14:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 17:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-11 2:38 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-11 1:29 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-10 14:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 14:30 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 17:02 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-14 5:14 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-14 12:24 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-14 14:05 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-06 20:16 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative conditional "short" jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 16:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 22:53 ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-09 16:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-06 20:16 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative conditional "near" jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 14:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 23:07 ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-09 16:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 18:54 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] uprobes/x86: fix the reprel jmp/call handling Jim Keniston
2014-04-08 11:43 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-08 16:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 19:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] uprobes/x86: Introduce sizeof_long(), cleanup adjust_ret_addr() and arch_uretprobe_hijack_return_addr() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate unconditional rip-relative jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 12:37 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 13:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate nop's using ops->emulate() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative call's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 12:53 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 13:15 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-10 13:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative conditional "short" jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative conditional "near" jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 12:49 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-09 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] uprobes/x86: fix the reprel jmp/call handling Jim Keniston
2014-04-10 12:28 ` Denys Vlasenko
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