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From: Jim Keniston <jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Anton Arapov <aarapov@redhat.com>,
	David Long <dave.long@linaro.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Lebon <jlebon@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative call's
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 21:05:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1397102752.8282.4.camel@oc7886638347.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1397078735.5261.20.camel@oc7886638347.ibm.com.usor.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 14:25 -0700, Jim Keniston wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 17:43 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 04/08, Jim Keniston wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2014-04-06 at 22:16 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > 0xe8. Anything else?
> 
> Oleg, thanks for responding to (if not necessarily agreeing with) all my
> suggestions.  I think your code is solid, but I think we were wrong
> about one thing.  See below.

Oops.  Nope.  You were right and I was wrong.  See below.

> 
> > >
> > > No, I think e8 is the only call instruction uprobes will see.
> > 
> > Good.
> > 
> > > The following couple of paragraphs should be included in the code,
> > > perhaps merged with some of the related comments already there.  Without
> > > it, the code is pretty hard to follow.
> > 
> > OK, I'll try to improve the comments somehow...
> > 
> > > > Emulating of rip-relative call is trivial, we only need to additionally
> > > > push the ret-address. If this fails, we execute this instruction out of
> > > > line and this should trigger the trap, the probed application should die
> > > > or the same insn will be restarted if a signal handler expands the stack.
> > > > We do not even need ->post_xol() for this case.
> > > >
> > > > But there is a corner (and almost theoretical) case: another thread can
> > > > expand the stack right before we execute this insn out of line. In this
> > > > case it hit the same problem we are trying to solve. So we simply turn
> > > > the probed insn into "call 1f; 1:" and add ->post_xol() which restores
> > > > ->sp and restarts.
> > >
> > > Can you explain under what circumstances emulation of the call
> > > instruction would fail?  Will the copy_to_user() call that writes the
> > > return address to the stack grow the stack if necessary?
> > 
> > If necessary and if possible.
> > 
> > > Will
> > > single-stepping the mangled call instruction expand the stack?
> > 
> > In the likely case it won't. If copy_to_user() failes, then "call" should
> > fail too (again, ignoring the potential race with another thread which can
> > populate the memory ->sp - 8 points to).
> 
> 
> I've experimented with putting a uprobe on a call instruction (in a
> tight loop, with no ret) and a kprobe on expand_stack(), and my results
> seem to indicate that a single-stepped call instruction will
> successfully grow the stack vma where a call to copy_to_user() won't.

Nope.  There was a bug in my test.  copy_to_user() can indeed grow the
stack vma.  So never mind.
> 
> So your trick of single-stepping the mangled call after the failed
> emulation, and then retrying the emulation should come into play in more
> than just theoretical situations.  We'd need it any time the probed call
> needs to grow the stack vma.
> 
> I can send you the test kprobe/uprobe modules I used, if you like.
> 
> Bottom line: no further code changes, but this would affect your
> comments.
> 
> Jim

Jim


  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-10  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-04 18:50 [PATCH v2 0/9] uprobes/x86: preparations to fix the reprel jmp/call handling Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] uprobes: Kill UPROBE_SKIP_SSTEP and can_skip_sstep() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] uprobes/x86: Fold prepare_fixups() into arch_uprobe_analyze_insn() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] uprobes/x86: Kill the "ia32_compat" check in handle_riprel_insn(), remove "mm" arg Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] uprobes/x86: Gather "riprel" functions together Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] uprobes/x86: move the UPROBE_FIX_{RIP,IP,CALL} code at the end of pre/post hooks Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] uprobes/x86: Introduce uprobe_xol_ops and arch_uprobe->ops Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08  9:10   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-08 16:10     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 18:10       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 12:58       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-09 16:55         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 13:58           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] uprobes/x86: Conditionalize the usage of handle_riprel_insn() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] uprobes/x86: Send SIGILL if arch_uprobe_post_xol() fails Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] uprobes/x86: Teach arch_uprobe_post_xol() to restart if possible Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 21:56   ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-05 12:46     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 19:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] uprobes/x86: preparations to fix the reprel jmp/call handling Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 19:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-04 23:44   ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-06 20:15     ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] uprobes/x86: " Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-06 20:16       ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate unconditional rip-relative jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 20:36         ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-09 14:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-06 20:16       ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate nop's using ops->emulate() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-06 20:16       ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] uprobes/x86: Introduce sizeof_long(), cleanup adjust_ret_addr() and arch_uretprobe_hijack_return_addr() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 20:34         ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-07 20:42           ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-06 20:16       ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative call's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 22:26         ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-09 15:43           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 21:25             ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-10  4:05               ` Jim Keniston [this message]
2014-04-10 13:41             ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 13:57               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-10 14:20                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-11  3:03                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-11 12:23                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-14 14:22                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-18 15:17                         ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 14:28                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 17:00                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-11  2:38                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-11  1:29                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-10 14:18               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 14:30                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 17:02                   ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-14  5:14                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-14 12:24                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-14 14:05                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-06 20:16       ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative conditional "short" jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 14:27         ` [RFC PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 16:41           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 22:53           ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-09 16:42             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-06 20:16       ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative conditional "near" jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 14:28         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 23:07           ` Jim Keniston
2014-04-09 16:50             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-07 18:54       ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] uprobes/x86: fix the reprel jmp/call handling Jim Keniston
2014-04-08 11:43       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-08 16:28         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-08 19:26           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44       ` [RFC PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44         ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] uprobes/x86: Introduce sizeof_long(), cleanup adjust_ret_addr() and arch_uretprobe_hijack_return_addr() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44         ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate unconditional rip-relative jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 12:37           ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 13:47             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44         ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate nop's using ops->emulate() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44         ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative call's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 12:53           ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-10 13:15             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-10 13:41               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44         ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative conditional "short" jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:44         ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] uprobes/x86: Emulate rip-relative conditional "near" jmp's Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 12:49           ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-09 21:34         ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] uprobes/x86: fix the reprel jmp/call handling Jim Keniston
2014-04-10 12:28         ` Denys Vlasenko

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