From: Chris Snook <chris.snook@gmail.com>
To: Mitchell Erblich <erblichs@earthlink.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Suggested code change : Simple : Scale pdflush threads from desktop to server
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:16:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <13a12eea0907110116g62bd0aa1n6f1d35a067351ff1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F4B972C6-3FAB-49DB-A409-36B5EF2A7684@earthlink.net>
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Mitchell Erblich<erblichs@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Group,
>
> pdflush threads clean dirty pages
>
> Under the past simple assumption that a greater number of
> page daemon threads will have the TENDENCY to clean
> the pages faster.
>
> Another assumption is that a server will have at least 2x / 4x the
> number of drives and memory, so allocating more pdflush() threads
> makes sense.
That's a rather sweeping generalization.
> Relying on a recent change, code base on whether the system is
> a desktop or a server, scale the number of pdthreads() which would
> result in the below code change.
>
> The suggestion is to double the MIN number of threads and set the
> MAX number to 4x.
>
> ./mm/pdflush.c
> /* Scale for a server */
> #define MIN_PDFLUSH_THREADS 4 /* 2x desktop value
> */
> #define MAX_PDFLUSH_THREADS 32 /* 4x desktop value
> */
So, you're taking a well-established and empirically validated set of
constants, and changing it only in the case where users are least
tolerant of change? I agree that the existing pdflush tuning is a bit
of a kludge, but this just adds more noise to the data we need to
analyze and optimize pdflush.
> /*
> * secondary suggestion is to add a DEBUG type /var/log/system
> messages that
> * will rate limit independent of desktop or server.
> */
>
> else if (nr_pdflush_threads == MAX_PDFLUSH_THREADS) {
> /* optional PDFLUSH msg */
> if (printk_ratelimit() {
> printk(KERN_INFO
> "MAX_PDFLUSH_THREADS Limited\n");
> }
> }
Log messages, even at debug level, for normal conditions are a really bad idea.
pdflush definitely needs work, but twiddling constants will, at best,
optimize it for a small subset of the user base for a brief period of
time. We really need patches that do intelligent things based on
system resources and load, and we need data to support them.
-- Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-11 8:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-11 1:25 Mitchell Erblich
2009-07-11 1:48 ` Mitchell Erblich
2009-07-11 8:16 ` Chris Snook [this message]
2009-07-11 9:54 ` Mitchell Erblich
2009-07-11 13:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
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