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From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] random: introduce getrandom(2) system call
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:47:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1406108835.2603.144733749.2407B407@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140722225950.GU25291@thunk.org>

Hi,

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014, at 00:59, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> But why would you need to use GRND_RANDOM in your scenario, and accept
> your application potentially getting stalled and stuck in amber for
> perhaps hours?  If you are going to accept your application stalling
> like that, you can do the pointer arithmatic.  It's really not hard,
> and someone who can't do that, again, shouldn't be allowd anywhere
> near crypto code in the first place (and if they are, they'll probably
> be making lots of other, equally fatal if not more so, newbie
> mistakes).

I favored the idea of having a non-failing non-partial-read getrandom
syscall. But I am with you if it often causes long stalls that we should
stick to the old semantics.

Thanks,
Hannes


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-23  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-20 16:26 George Spelvin
2014-07-20 17:03 ` George Spelvin
2014-07-20 21:32   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-21 11:21     ` George Spelvin
2014-07-21 15:27       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-22  1:02         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-22  4:44           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-22  9:49             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-22 22:59               ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-23  9:47                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2014-07-23 11:52                   ` George Spelvin
2014-07-23 12:10                     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-30 12:50                       ` Pavel Machek
2014-07-20 17:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-07-17 18:48 Mark Kettenis
2014-07-17 20:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 21:28   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 21:37     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 22:21   ` David Lang
2014-07-17  9:18 Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 10:57 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-17 12:52   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 13:15     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-17 12:09 ` Tobias Klauser
2014-07-17 12:52   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 16:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-17 17:01   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 17:05     ` Bob Beck
2014-07-17 17:34       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 17:45         ` Bob Beck
2014-07-17 17:46           ` Bob Beck
2014-07-17 17:57             ` Bob Beck
2014-07-17 22:30           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 19:56         ` Bob Beck
2014-07-21  0:25     ` Dwayne Litzenberger
2014-07-21  7:18       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 19:31 ` Greg KH
2014-07-17 19:33 ` Greg KH
2014-07-17 19:48 ` Zach Brown
2014-07-17 20:54   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 21:39     ` Zach Brown
2014-07-17 20:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 21:14   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-18 16:36 ` Rolf Eike Beer
2014-07-20 15:50 ` Andi Kleen
2014-07-20 17:06   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-20 17:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-07-20 17:41   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-21  6:18 ` Dwayne Litzenberger
2014-07-23  8:42 ` Manuel Schölling

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