From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Sergey Oboguev <oboguev.public@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, khalid.aziz@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] sched: deferred set priority (dprio)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:04:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1407589454.5156.308.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+80gGZWSeoHFM-_uoGFCw4nJAkQGfTjEKfSyAaqTw6xmUVMvA@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 13:11 -0700, Sergey Oboguev wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > task priority cannot be used by any task to describe a critical section.
> > I assert that is that there is _zero_ critical section information present.
>
> This appears to be the crux of our disagreement.
>
> This assertion is incorrect. The use of RT to bracket a critical section
> obviously _does_ provide the following information:
You sure don't give up easy.
> 1) designation of entry point for the start of critical activity
Yup, a task can elevate its priority upon entering scram_reactor(), iff
it gets there, scram might still be considered a critical activity.
> 2) designation of exit point, albeit with timing not known in advance at entry
> time
Yeah, exit works ok if enter happens.
You are not going to convince me that it is cool to assign an imaginary
priority to a SCHED_FIFO class task, and still call the resulting mutant
a SCHED_FIFO class task. Those things have defines semantics. It is
not ok for a SCHED_FIFO task of a lower priority to completely ignore a
SCHED_FIFO task of a higher priority because it's part of an application
which has one or more wild cards, or maybe even a get out of jail free
card it can pull out of its butt.
NAK. There it is, my imaginary NAK to imaginary realtime priorities :)
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-09 13:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-25 19:45 Sergey Oboguev
2014-07-25 20:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-26 7:56 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-07-26 8:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-26 18:30 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-07-27 4:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-27 9:09 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-07-27 10:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-28 1:19 ` Andi Kleen
2014-07-28 4:16 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-07-28 7:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-03 0:43 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-08-03 9:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-05 23:28 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-08-06 5:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-06 7:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-07 1:26 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-08-07 9:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-08 20:11 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-08-09 13:04 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2014-08-09 18:04 ` Andi Kleen
2014-08-10 3:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-10 3:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-13 23:52 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-08-09 8:38 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-08-09 14:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-03 17:30 ` Andi Kleen
2014-08-05 23:13 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-07-30 13:02 ` Pavel Machek
2014-08-03 0:47 ` Sergey Oboguev
2014-08-03 8:30 ` Pavel Machek
2014-08-05 23:03 ` Sergey Oboguev
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-07-21 12:33 Sergey Oboguev
2014-07-21 18:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
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