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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
Cc: Myron Stowe <mstowe@redhat.com>, Jiang Liu <liuj97@gmail.com>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
	Yijing Wang <wangyijing@huawei.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Myron Stowe <myron.stowe@redhat.com>,
	bhelgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] ACPI/pci_slot: update PCI slot information when PCI hotplug event happens
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:39:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1410202.K95a8u1BYT@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE9FiQXmnmFgG5jLnGyeYX7NcedGa-ztGo_CGoNjV8fFbe_esA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thursday, January 10, 2013 03:03:53 PM Yinghai Lu wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > Well, I don't see what functional problems that can bring.
> >
> > In theory people may want to have them as modules to avoid loading them on
> > systems that don't use PCI hotplug, but honestly I think that the complexity
> > this causes us to deal with is not worth it.
> >
> > Moreover, removing the modularity may actually allow us to solve some ordering
> > issues once and for good.
> 
> No, the world is not really ideal yet.
> 
> looks like laptops have problem with pci express cards.
> 
> when pciehp is used, surprise insert/removal does not work because
> PresDect does not change properly, so no interrupt is generated.
> --- i suspects that is silicon problem.
> 
> but when acpiphp is used, that surprise  insert/removal is working.
> 
> some laptop like thinkpad, just don't give osc to kernel..
> [    0.505117]  pci0000:00: Requesting ACPI _OSC control (0x1d)
> [    0.505413]  pci0000:00: ACPI _OSC request failed (AE_SUPPORT),
> returned control mask: 0x0d
> [    0.505517] ACPI _OSC control for PCIe not granted, disabling ASPM
> 
> and other laptop give that to kernel, in recent kernel will not give
> acpiphp to have that slot, because it want to hold that for pciehp.
> poor user have to pass 'pci_aspm=off" to disable _OSC for all.
> --- please check the mail that i forward to you yesterday.

Yes, this is a bug, but I'm not sure how to fix it yet.

> Anyway, we do need to let the user to have choice to use acpiphp and pciehp.
> and it should be first come and first serve policy.

And that's why you think they should be modules?  I disagree if so.

Thanks,
Rafael


-- 
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-10 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-25 14:29 [PATCH v3 1/7] PCI: make PCI device create/destroy logic symmetric Jiang Liu
2012-09-25 14:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] PCI: split registration of PCI bus devices into two stages Jiang Liu
2012-09-25 14:29 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ACPI/pci_bind: correctly update binding relationship for PCI hotplug Jiang Liu
2013-01-08  0:05   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-08 16:52     ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Update PCI notification patchset to latest kernel version Jiang Liu
2013-01-08 18:30       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-09  9:11         ` Yijing Wang
2013-01-08 16:52     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] PCI: make PCI device create/destroy logic symmetric Jiang Liu
2013-01-08 16:52     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] PCI: split registration of PCI bus devices into two stages Jiang Liu
2013-01-08 23:29       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-09 16:10         ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-08 16:52     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] ACPI/pci_slot: update PCI slot information when PCI hotplug event happens Jiang Liu
2013-01-09  0:01       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-09 16:58         ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-09 20:19           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-09 20:44             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-09 21:00               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-10 21:24               ` Myron Stowe
2013-01-10 21:50                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-10 23:03                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-10 23:39                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2013-01-10 23:40                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-10 23:59                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-11 18:06                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-11 20:46                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-11 11:07                       ` Martin Mokrejs
2013-01-11 12:07                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-08 16:52     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] PCI/acpiphp: update ACPI hotplug slot information when PCI hotplug happens Jiang Liu
2013-01-09  0:04       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-09 16:29         ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-09 20:23           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-13 15:13             ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-13 20:33               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-08 16:52     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] PCI/acpiphp: serialize access to the bridge_list list Jiang Liu
2013-01-08 16:52     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] PCI/AER: update AER configuration when PCI hotplug event happens Jiang Liu
2012-09-25 14:29 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] ACPI/pci-bind: remove bind/unbind callbacks from acpi_device_ops Jiang Liu
2012-09-25 14:29 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] ACPI/pci_slot: update PCI slot information when PCI hotplug event happens Jiang Liu
2012-09-25 14:29 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] PCI/acpiphp: update ACPI hotplug slot information when PCI hotplug happens Jiang Liu
2012-09-25 14:29 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] PCI/acpiphp: serialize access to the bridge_list list Jiang Liu

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