From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755094AbaITQKy (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:10:54 -0400 Received: from smtprelay0043.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.43]:52567 "EHLO smtprelay.hostedemail.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750963AbaITQKx (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:10:53 -0400 X-Session-Marker: 6A6F6540706572636865732E636F6D X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,joe@perches.com,:::::::::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:541:599:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1373:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1537:1566:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2559:2562:2691:2828:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3622:3865:3867:3871:3873:3874:4321:5007:7652:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12050:12517:12519:12740:13069:13311:13357:21080,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 X-HE-Tag: plane49_41a56acff394c X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1821 Message-ID: <1411229447.24444.53.camel@joe-AO725> Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: git rid of [sched_delayed] message for printk_deferred From: Joe Perches To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Jan Kara , Steven Rostedt , Markus Trippelsdorf , Geert Uytterhoeven , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Andrew Morton Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:10:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20140920154733.GM2832@worktop.localdomain> References: <20140916203510.GF1205@quack.suse.cz> <20140916170709.73ef2993@gandalf.local.home> <20140916212250.GI1205@quack.suse.cz> <20140916173328.6306a5c2@gandalf.local.home> <20140917141816.GO2840@worktop.localdomain> <20140917102255.5cd03071@gandalf.local.home> <20140917223633.GE2848@worktop.localdomain> <20140917203135.6db2ee5e@gandalf.local.home> <20140918173414.GU2840@worktop.localdomain> <20140920051224.GA5573@quack.suse.cz> <20140920154733.GM2832@worktop.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4-0ubuntu2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 2014-09-20 at 17:47 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On a whole, printk() is entirely useless for debugging these days, its > far too fragile/unreliable to be taken seriously so I really don't care > on that point either. That's unfortunate. Care to enumerate the issues that you believe make printk too fragile/unreliable for debugging?