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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Cc: johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm, Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:21:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14133.1175966465@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:11:46 +0200." <m34pns46l9.fsf@maximus.localdomain>

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On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:11:46 +0200, Krzysztof Halasa said:
>
> Gzip - 3 files (zeros only, raw DV data from video camera, x86_64
> kernel rpm file), 10 MB of data (10*1024*1024),
> $ l -Ggh zeros dv bin
> -rw-r--r-- 1 10M Apr  7 15:30 bin
> -rw-r--r-- 1 10M Apr  7 15:31 dv
> -rw-r--r-- 1 10M Apr  7 15:31 zeros

> $ l -Ggh zeros.gz dv.gz bin.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1  10K Apr  7 15:31 zeros.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 9.1M Apr  7 15:31 dv.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 9.3M Apr  7 15:30 bin.gz
> 
> ... and though the numbers may still sound impressive, space savings
> are less than 10%.

I am quite sure that the kernel RPM file is *already* compressed, at least
somewhat.  Otherwise, it's hard to explain this:

-rw-r--r--    1 529      263     17835757   Apr  5 00:19   kernel-2.6.20-1.3045.fc7.x86_64.rpm

% du -s /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.3038.fc7/
76436   /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.3038.fc7/

and it can't all be slack space at ends of files:

% find /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.3038.fc7/ -type f | wc -l
1482

Even on a 4K filesystem, the *max* wasted slack would be about 4M.

And what do you know - if you tar.gz that /lib/modules:

% tar czf /tmp/kern.tar.gz /lib/modules/2.6.20-1.3038.fc7/
tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
% ls -l /tmp/kern.tar.gz 
-rw-r--r-- 1 valdis valdis 15506359 2007-04-07 13:19 /tmp/kern.tar.gz

The *compressed* tar is about 15M (remember the .rpm contained a 2M vmlinuz
as well - that;s compressed too).  So we're right up to the 17M of the .rpm,
which indicates that the RPM is compressed at a factor close to tar.gz.

I'd not be surprised to find out that your digital-video also contains
at least some light compression - if it's mpeg or similar, that's already
had some *heavy* compression done to it....

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-07 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-05 22:42 REISER4: fix for reiser4_write_extent Ignatich
2007-04-06  0:05 ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER? I need help johnrobertbanks
2007-04-06  0:23   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06  0:34     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-06  0:39       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06  1:34         ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER johnrobertbanks
2007-04-06  3:12           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-06  4:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06  4:32             ` johnrobertbanks
     [not found]               ` <20070406152119.GC4228@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu>
2007-04-07  2:47                 ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  3:30                   ` Jan Harkes
2007-04-07  5:58                     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  7:15                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-07 13:47                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 14:11                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-07 15:07                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:05                           ` Pekka Enberg
2007-04-07 17:10                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08 16:31                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-07 17:21                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2007-04-08  0:41                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-07 17:39                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-07 19:17               ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-08  0:44                 ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08  1:27                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-08  2:56                   ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08  4:13                     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 12:48                       ` Jose Celestino
2007-04-08 13:21                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 14:14                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-08 17:03                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 18:18                         ` Jeff Mahoney
2007-04-08  4:32                   ` Christer Weinigel
2007-04-08 21:50                     ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 22:58                       ` Richard Knutsson
2007-04-09  5:14                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-09  7:07                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-09 16:10                           ` Richard Knutsson
2007-04-09 18:35                     ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER Nate Diller
2007-04-07  1:26   ` COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  7:45     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:57       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  1:11         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:42     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  1:02       ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08  1:42         ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-07 12:51 ` REISER4: fix for reiser4_write_extent Laurent Riffard
2007-04-07 19:29   ` Edward Shishkin
2007-04-07 12:59 Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER Dale Amon
2007-04-07 15:28 ` johnrobertbanks

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