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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com>,
	kamalesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	"linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Patch Tracking <patches@linaro.org>,
	Tuukka Tikkanen <tuukka.tikkanen@linaro.org>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 5/7] sched: cfs: cpu frequency scaling arch functions
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:12:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1414030360.5228.12.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54485D03.9070107@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 21:42 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: 
> On 10/22/2014 07:20 PM, Mike Turquette wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > wrote: On 10/22/2014 02:07 AM, Mike Turquette wrote:
> >>>> arch_eval_cpu_freq and arch_scale_cpu_freq are added to allow
> >>>> the scheduler to evaluate if cpu frequency should change and
> >>>> to invoke that change from a safe context.
> >>>> 
> >>>> They are weakly defined arch functions that do nothing by
> >>>> default. A CPUfreq governor could use these functions to
> >>>> implement a frequency scaling policy based on updates to
> >>>> per-task statistics or updates to per-cpu utilization.
> >>>> 
> >>>> As discussed at Linux Plumbers Conference 2014, the goal will
> >>>> be to focus on a single cpu frequency scaling policy that
> >>>> works for everyone. That may mean that the weak arch
> >>>> functions definitions can be removed entirely and a single
> >>>> policy implements that logic for all architectures.
> > 
> > On virtual machines, we probably want to use both frequency and 
> > steal time to calculate the factor.
> > 
> >> You mean for calculating desired cpu frequency on a virtual
> >> guest? Is that something we want to do?
> 
> A guest will be unable to set the cpu frequency, but it should
> know what the frequency is, so it can take the capacity of each
> CPU into account when doing things like load balancing.

Hm.  Why does using vaporite freq/capacity/whatever make any sense, the
silicon under the V(aporite)PU can/does change at the drop of a hat, no?

-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-23  2:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-22  6:07 [PATCH RFC 0/7] scheduler-driven cpu frequency scaling Mike Turquette
2014-10-22  6:07 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] sched: Make energy awareness a sched feature Mike Turquette
2014-10-22  6:07 ` [PATCH RFC 2/7] sched: cfs: declare capacity_of in sched.h Mike Turquette
2014-10-22  6:07 ` [PATCH RFC 3/7] sched: fair: add usage_util_of helper Mike Turquette
2014-10-22  6:07 ` [PATCH RFC 4/7] cpufreq: add per-governor private data Mike Turquette
2014-10-22  6:26   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-10-22  6:35     ` Mike Turquette
2014-10-22  6:07 ` [PATCH RFC 5/7] sched: cfs: cpu frequency scaling arch functions Mike Turquette
2014-10-22 20:06   ` Rik van Riel
2014-10-22 23:20     ` Mike Turquette
2014-10-23  1:42       ` Rik van Riel
2014-10-23  2:12         ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2014-10-23  2:42           ` Rik van Riel
2014-10-22  6:07 ` [PATCH RFC 6/7] sched: cfs: cpu frequency scaling based on task placement Mike Turquette
2014-10-23  4:03   ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-10-27 15:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-27 17:42   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2014-11-27 10:46   ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-10-22  6:07 ` [PATCH RFC 7/7] sched: energy_model: simple cpu frequency scaling policy Mike Turquette
2014-10-27 19:43   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2014-10-28 14:27   ` Peter Zijlstra

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