From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:03:28 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:07:43 -0400 Received: from dukat.scot.redhat.com ([195.89.149.246]:2173 "EHLO dukat.scot.redhat.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:11:23 -0400 From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14163.6255.462769.27934@dukat.scot.redhat.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:17:03 +0100 (BST) To: "Jeff Merkey" Cc: "Jim Mostek" , , , , Stephen Tweedie Subject: Re: XFS and journalling filesystems In-Reply-To: <012201bea93f$db9d1050$e6976dcf@TRGMERKEYNT2000> References: <199905281653.LAA61598@fsgi344.cray.com> <012201bea93f$db9d1050$e6976dcf@TRGMERKEYNT2000> Sender: owner-linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu Hi, On Fri, 28 May 1999 13:25:33 -0600, "Jeff Merkey" said: > getting the NetWare FS (FENRIS) ready for open source next Tuesday, > hopefully it may be helpful to all, including you guys -- we are putting ALL > of it under the GPL (less the NT specific IFS code which is about 18,000 > lines oddly enough)). Sounds like the term "journalling" is like the term > "clustering" from an industry perspective, No, it is a true transactional journal with ACID semantics. It just doesn't necessarily include data. > and some FS's aren't really journalled, but reapply this term for > marketing positioning. That is the standard definition of the term in the fs community on Unix. Sounds like you are the one trying to redefine it! > A log based file system that logs user writes and allows rollbacks > is what most folks assume when the term "journalling" is used. No. You may be thinking of a log-structured filesystem, but that is _completely_ different from metadata journaling (which of course doesn't mean that marketing depts don't sometimes try to confuse them). An LFS is necessarily journaled, but not all journaled filesystems are log structured. --Stephen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/