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From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/17] sched/core: allow only preferred CPUs in is_cpu_allowed
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2026 18:26:20 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1430f070-a0cb-4c16-a96d-99acb5e53ab1@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adWp6xXjpmeEDHeY@yury>

Hi Yury.

On 4/8/26 6:35 AM, Yury Norov wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2026 at 12:49:38AM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
>>
>> When possible, choose a preferred CPUs to pick.
>>
>> Push task mechanism uses stopper thread which going to call
>> select_fallback_rq and use this mechanism to pick only a preferred CPU.
>>
>> When task is affined only to non-preferred CPUs it should continue to
>> run there. Detect that by checking if cpus_ptr and cpu_preferred_mask
>> interesect or not.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
>> ---
>>   kernel/sched/core.c  | 17 ++++++++++++++---
>>   kernel/sched/sched.h | 12 ++++++++++++
>>   2 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
>> index 7ea05a7a717b..336e7c694eb7 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
>> @@ -2463,9 +2463,16 @@ static inline bool is_cpu_allowed(struct task_struct *p, int cpu)
>>   	if (is_migration_disabled(p))
>>   		return cpu_online(cpu);
>>   
>> -	/* Non kernel threads are not allowed during either online or offline. */
>> -	if (!(p->flags & PF_KTHREAD))
>> -		return cpu_active(cpu);
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Non kernel threads are not allowed during either online or offline.
>> +	 * Ensure it is a preferred CPU to avoid further contention
>> +	 */
>> +	if (!(p->flags & PF_KTHREAD)) {
>> +		if (!cpu_active(cpu))
>> +			return false;
>> +		if (!cpu_preferred(cpu) && task_can_run_on_preferred_cpu(p))
>> +			return false;
>> +	}
>>   
>>   	/* KTHREAD_IS_PER_CPU is always allowed. */
>>   	if (kthread_is_per_cpu(p))
>> @@ -2475,6 +2482,10 @@ static inline bool is_cpu_allowed(struct task_struct *p, int cpu)
>>   	if (cpu_dying(cpu))
>>   		return false;
>>   
>> +	/* Try on preferred CPU first */
>> +	if (!cpu_preferred(cpu) && task_can_run_on_preferred_cpu(p))
>> +		return false;
> 

First one was regular tasks, this is for unbound kernel threads.
Both will need. No?

> You repeat this for the 2nd time. The cpu_preferred() call should go
> inside task_can_run_on_preferred_cpu().

I want to keep this check for cpu_preferred() first. the reason being
it is inexpensive since it is bit check. Only if it fails, then one should
bother about task_can_run_on_preferred_cpu which is O(N) as you said.

I am using the task_can_run_on_preferred_cpu in push task mechanism too.
PATCH 10/17. I get there only on non-preferred CPU.
So can I keep as is?

> 
> And can you please pick some shorter name?
> 

task_has_preferred_cpus?

>> +
>>   	/* But are allowed during online. */
>>   	return cpu_online(cpu);
>>   }
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>> index 88e0c93b9e21..7271af2ca64f 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>> @@ -4130,4 +4130,16 @@ DEFINE_CLASS_IS_UNCONDITIONAL(sched_change)
>>   
>>   #include "ext.h"
>>   
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_PARAVIRT
>> +static inline bool task_can_run_on_preferred_cpu(struct task_struct *p)
>> +{
>> +	return cpumask_intersects(p->cpus_ptr, cpu_preferred_mask);
> 
> This makes is_cpu_allowed() O(N). Even if CONFIG_PARAVIRT is enabled,
> I think some people would prefer to avoid this. Also, select_fallback_rq()
> calls it in a loop, and this makes it O(N^2).
> 
> 
>         /* Any allowed, online CPU? */
>         for_each_cpu(dest_cpu, p->cpus_ptr) {
>                 if (!is_cpu_allowed(p, dest_cpu))
>                         continue;
> 
>                 goto out;
>         }
> 
> You can keep it O(N):
>         for_each_cpu_and(dest_cpu, p->cpus_ptr, cpu_preferred_mask) {
>                  ...
>         }

This would leave tasks which has affinity only on non-preferred CPUs without a CPU.

That breaks below case,
600 CPUs, high steal time and hence preferred is 0-399.
In that state, user does "taskset -c 500 <stress-ng>", that task ends up
going to preferred CPUs since its affinity gets reset in the switch
block later in select_fallback_rq.

> 
> Not sure how critical that path is, but this looks suspicious.
> 

Fair point. But we come here only if cpu_preferred(cpu) == false.

When that happens, we expect the task running on will get preempted
to a preferred CPUs. If it migrated to a preferred cpu, then on-wards
it wont suffer the additional overhead of task_can_run_on_preferred_cpu

case where it would be O(N^2) is for tasks which have explicit affinity
on non-preferred CPUs. I see that as rare case.

For the majority of the cases, it should still be O(N) since cpu_preferred(cpu)
will be true.


Here is the benchmark data on system where there is 0 steal time.
It is dedicated LPAR(VM).

| Test                            | Baseline | NO STEAL | %diff to base| STEAL     | %diff to base |
|                                 |          | MONITOR  |              | MONITOR   |               |
|---------------------------------|----------|----------|--------------|-----------|---------------|
| HackBench Process 20 groups     |     2.70 |  2.67    |      +1.11%  |   2.66    |       +1.48%  |
| HackBench Process 40 groups     |     5.31 |  5.26    |      +0.94%  |   5.30    |       +0.19%  |
| HackBench Process 60 groups     |     7.95 |  7.82    |      +1.64%  |   7.90    |       +0.63%  |
| HackBench thread 10 Time        |     1.61 |  1.59    |      +1.24%  |   1.56    |       +3.11%  |
| HackBench thread 20 Time        |     2.82 |  2.83    |      -0.35%  |   2.80    |       +0.71%  |
| HackBench Process(Pipe) 20 Time |     1.51 |  1.50    |      +0.66%  |   1.47    |       +2.65%  |
| HackBench Process(Pipe) 40 Time |     2.78 |  2.69    |      +3.24%  |   2.69    |       +3.24%  |
| HackBench Process(Pipe) 60 Time |     3.73 |  3.76    |      -0.80%  |   3.64    |       +2.41%  |
| HackBench thread(Pipe) 10 Time  |     0.94 |  0.91    |      +3.19%  |   0.91    |       +3.19%  |
| HackBench thread(Pipe) 20 Time  |     1.58 |  1.58    |      -0.00%  |   1.59    |       -0.63%  |




>> +}
>> +#else
>> +static inline bool task_can_run_on_preferred_cpu(struct task_struct *p)
>> +{
>> +	return true;
>> +}
>> +#endif
> 
> Same comment as in patch 3. I believe, it's worth to declare cpu_preferred_mask
> unrelated to CONFIG_PARAVIRT, so that you'll not have to spread this
> ifdefery around.
> 

Yes.

>> +
>>   #endif /* _KERNEL_SCHED_SCHED_H */
>> -- 
>> 2.47.3


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07 19:19 [PATCH v2 00/17] sched/paravirt: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask and steal-driven vCPU backoff Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] sched/debug: Remove unused schedstats Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] sched/docs: Document cpu_preferred_mask and Preferred CPU concept Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] cpumask: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 20:27   ` Yury Norov
2026-04-08  9:16     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-08 17:57       ` Yury Norov
2026-05-05  4:07         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] sysfs: Add preferred CPU file Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] sched/core: allow only preferred CPUs in is_cpu_allowed Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-08  1:05   ` Yury Norov
2026-04-08 12:56     ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2026-04-08 18:09       ` Yury Norov
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] sched/fair: Select preferred CPU at wakeup when possible Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] sched/fair: load balance only among preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] sched/rt: Select a preferred CPU for wakeup and pulling rt task Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] sched/core: Keep tick on non-preferred CPUs until tasks are out Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] sched/core: Push current task from non preferred CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] sched/debug: Add migration stats due to non preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] sched/feature: Add STEAL_MONITOR feature Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] sched/core: Introduce a simple steal monitor Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] sched/core: Compute steal values at regular intervals Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] sched/core: Handle steal values and mark CPUs as preferred Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] sched/core: Mark the direction of steal values to avoid oscillations Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] sched/debug: Add debug knobs for steal monitor Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-07 19:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] sched/paravirt: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask and steal-driven vCPU backoff Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-08 10:14 ` Hillf Danton
2026-04-08 13:49   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-09  5:15     ` Hillf Danton
2026-04-09 10:27       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-10  9:47 ` Shrikanth Hegde

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