From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, mingo@redhat.com, lizefan@huawei.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, pjt@google.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET RFC cgroup/for-4.6] cgroup, sched: implement resource group and PRIO_RGRP
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:26:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1457764019.10402.72.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1457710888-31182-1-git-send-email-tj@kernel.org>
On Fri, 2016-03-11 at 10:41 -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This patchset extends cgroup v2 to support rgroup (resource group) for
> in-process hierarchical resource control and implements PRIO_RGRP for
> setpriority(2) on top to allow in-process hierarchical CPU cycle
> control in a seamless way.
>
> cgroup v1 allowed putting threads of a process in different cgroups
> which enabled ad-hoc in-process resource control of some resources.
> Unfortunately, this approach was fraught with problems such as
> membership ambiguity with per-process resources and lack of isolation
> between system management and in-process properties. For a more
> detailed discussion on the subject, please refer to the following
> message.
>
> [1] [RFD] cgroup: thread granularity support for cpu controller
>
> This patchset implements the mechanism outlined in the above message.
> The new mechanism is named rgroup (resource group). When explicitly
> designating a non-rgroup cgroup, the term sgroup (system group) is
> used. rgroup has the following properties.
>
> * A rgroup is a cgroup which is invisible on and transparent to the
> system-level cgroupfs interface.
>
> * A rgroup can be created by specifying CLONE_NEWRGRP flag, along with
> CLONE_THREAD, during clone(2). A new rgroup is created under the
> parent thread's cgroup and the new thread is created in it.
>
> * A rgroup is automatically destroyed when empty.
>
> * A top-level rgroup of a process is a rgroup whose parent cgroup is a
> sgroup. A process may have multiple top-level rgroups and thus
> multiple rgroup subtrees under the same parent sgroup.
>
> * Unlike sgroups, rgroups are allowed to compete against peer threads.
> Each rgroup behaves equivalent to a sibling task.
>
> * rgroup subtrees are local to the process. When the process forks or
> execs, its rgroup subtrees are collapsed.
>
> * When a process is migrated to a different cgroup, its rgroup
> subtrees are preserved.
>
> * Subset of controllers available on the parent sgroup are available
> to rgroup subtrees. Controller management on rgroups is automatic
> and implicit and doesn't interfere with system-level cgroup
> controller management. If a controller is made unavailable on the
> parent sgroup, it's automatically disabled from child rgroup
> subtrees.
>
> rgroup lays the foundation for other kernel mechanisms to make use of
> resource controllers while providing proper isolation between system
> management and in-process operations removing the awkward and
> layer-violating requirement for coordination between individual
> applications and system management. On top of the rgroup mechanism,
> PRIO_RGRP is implemented for {set|get}priority(2).
>
> * PRIO_RGRP can only be used if the target task is already in a
> rgroup. If setpriority(2) is used and cpu controller is available,
> cpu controller is enabled until the target rgroup is covered and the
> specified nice value is set as the weight of the rgroup.
>
> * The specified nice value has the same meaning as for tasks. For
> example, a rgroup and a task competing under the same parent would
> behave exactly the same as two tasks.
>
> * For top-level rgroups, PRIO_RGRP follows the same rlimit
> restrictions as PRIO_PROCESS; however, as nested rgroups only
> distribute CPU cycles which are allocated to the process, no
> restriction is applied.
>
> PRIO_RGRP allows in-process hierarchical control of CPU cycles in a
> manner which is a straight-forward and minimal extension of existing
> task and priority management.
Hrm. You're showing that per-thread groups can coexist just fine,
which is good given need and usage exists today out in the wild. Why
do such groups have to be invisible with a unique interface though?
Given the core has to deal with them whether they're visible or not,
and given they exist to fulfill a need, seems they should be first
class citizens, not some Quasimodo like creature sneaking into the
cathedral via a back door and slinking about in the shadows.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-12 6:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-11 15:41 Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 01/10] cgroup: introduce cgroup_[un]lock() Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 02/10] cgroup: un-inline cgroup_path() and friends Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 03/10] cgroup: introduce CGRP_MIGRATE_* flags Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 04/10] signal: make put_signal_struct() public Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 05/10] cgroup, fork: add @new_rgrp_cset[p] and @clone_flags to cgroup fork callbacks Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 06/10] cgroup, fork: add @child and @clone_flags to threadgroup_change_begin/end() Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 07/10] cgroup: introduce resource group Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 08/10] cgroup: implement rgroup control mask handling Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 09/10] cgroup: implement rgroup subtree migration Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 10/10] cgroup, sched: implement PRIO_RGRP for {set|get}priority() Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 16:05 ` Example program for PRIO_RGRP Tejun Heo
2016-03-12 6:26 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2016-03-12 17:04 ` [PATCHSET RFC cgroup/for-4.6] cgroup, sched: implement resource group and PRIO_RGRP Mike Galbraith
2016-03-12 17:13 ` cgroup NAKs ignored? " Ingo Molnar
2016-03-13 14:42 ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-13 15:00 ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-13 17:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-07 0:00 ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-07 3:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-14 2:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-14 11:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-06 15:58 ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-07 6:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 7:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-04-07 8:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-07 8:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 9:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-04-07 10:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 19:45 ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-07 20:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-08 20:11 ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-09 6:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-09 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-12 22:29 ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-13 7:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-13 15:59 ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-13 19:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-14 6:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-14 19:57 ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-15 2:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-09 16:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 8:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 19:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-04-07 19:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 20:23 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-04-08 3:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-15 17:21 ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-06 21:53 ` Tejun Heo
2016-04-07 6:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
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