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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RT 4/6] rt/locking: Reenable migration accross schedule
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:31:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1459405903.14336.64.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1603241140510.3978@nanos>

On Thu, 2016-03-24 at 11:44 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:

> I really wonder what makes the change. The only thing which comes to my mind
> is the enforcement of running the online and down_prepare callbacks on the
> plugged cpu instead of doing it wherever the scheduler decides to run it.

It seems it's not the state machinery making a difference after all,
the only two deadlocks encountered in oodles of beating seem to boil
down to the grab_lock business being a pistol aimed at our own toes.

1. kernfs_mutex taken during hotplug: We don't pin across mutex
acquisition, so anyone grabbing it and then calling migrate_disable()
while grab_lock is set renders us dead.  Pin across acquisition of that
specific mutex fixes that specific grab_lock instigated deadlock.

2. notifier dependency upon RCU GP threads:  Telling same to always do
migrate_me() or hotplug can bloody well wait fixes that specific
grab_lock instigated deadlock.

With those two little hacks, all of my boxen including DL980 just keep
on chugging away in 4.[456]-rt, showing zero inclination to identify
any more hotplug bandits.

What I like much better than 1 + 2 is their sum, which would generate
minus signs, my favorite thing in patches, and fix the two above and
anything that resembles them in any way...

3. nuke irksome grab_lock: make everybody always try to get the hell
outta Dodge or hotplug can bloody well wait.

I haven't yet flogged my 64 core box doing that, but my local boxen
seem to be saying we don't really really need the grab_lock business.

Are my boxen fibbing, is that very attractive looking door #3 a trap?

	-Mike

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-31  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-12 23:02 [PATCH RT 1/6] kernel: softirq: unlock with irqs on Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-02-12 23:02 ` [PATCH RT 2/6] kernel: migrate_disable() do fastpath in atomic & irqs-off Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-02-12 23:02 ` [PATCH RT 3/6] rtmutex: push down migrate_disable() into rt_spin_lock() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-02-12 23:02 ` [PATCH RT 4/6] rt/locking: Reenable migration accross schedule Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-03-20  8:43   ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-24 10:07     ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-24 10:44       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-03-24 11:06         ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-25  5:38           ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-25  8:52             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-03-25  9:13               ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-25  9:14                 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-25 16:24                 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-29  4:05                   ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-31  6:31         ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2016-04-01 21:11           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-04-02  3:12             ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-05 12:49               ` [rfc patch 0/2] Kill hotplug_lock()/hotplug_unlock() Mike Galbraith
     [not found]               ` <1459837988.26938.16.camel@gmail.com>
2016-04-05 12:49                 ` [rfc patch 1/2] rt/locking/hotplug: " Mike Galbraith
2016-04-05 12:49                 ` [rfc patch 2/2] rt/locking/hotplug: Fix rt_spin_lock_slowlock() migrate_disable() bug Mike Galbraith
2016-04-06 12:00                   ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-07  4:37                     ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-07 16:48                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-04-07 19:08                         ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-07 16:47               ` [PATCH RT 4/6] rt/locking: Reenable migration accross schedule Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-04-07 19:04                 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-08 10:30                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-04-08 12:10                     ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-08  6:35                 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-08 13:44                 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-08 13:58                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-04-08 14:16                     ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-08 14:51                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-04-08 16:49                         ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-18 17:15                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-04-18 17:55                             ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-19  7:07                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-04-19  8:55                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-19  9:02                                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-02-12 23:02 ` [PATCH RT 5/6] kernel/stop_machine: partly revert "stop_machine: Use raw spinlocks" Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-02-12 23:02 ` [PATCH RT 6/6] rcu: disable more spots of rcu_bh Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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