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From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Russell King <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>,
	David Riley <davidriley@chromium.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Subject: [PATCH 2/3] delay: Add explanation of udelay() inaccuracy
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:59:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1485565171-21223-3-git-send-email-john.stultz@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1485565171-21223-1-git-send-email-john.stultz@linaro.org>

From: Russell King <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>

There seems to be some misunderstanding that udelay() and friends will
always guarantee the specified delay.  This is a false understanding.
When udelay() is based on CPU cycles, it can return early for many
reasons which are detailed by Linus' reply to me in a thread in 2011:

  http://lists.openwall.net/linux-kernel/2011/01/12/372

However, a udelay test module was created in 2014 which allows udelay()
to only be 0.5% fast, which is outside of the CPU-cycles udelay()
results I measured back in 2011, which were deemed to be in the "we
don't care" region.

test_udelay() should be fixed to reflect the real allowable tolerance
on udelay(), rather than 0.5%.

Cc: David Riley <davidriley@chromium.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Russell King <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>
Signed-off-by: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
---
 include/linux/delay.h | 11 +++++++++++
 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)

diff --git a/include/linux/delay.h b/include/linux/delay.h
index a6ecb34..2ecb3c4 100644
--- a/include/linux/delay.h
+++ b/include/linux/delay.h
@@ -5,6 +5,17 @@
  * Copyright (C) 1993 Linus Torvalds
  *
  * Delay routines, using a pre-computed "loops_per_jiffy" value.
+ *
+ * Please note that ndelay(), udelay() and mdelay() may return early for
+ * several reasons:
+ *  1. computed loops_per_jiffy too low (due to the time taken to
+ *     execute the timer interrupt.)
+ *  2. cache behaviour affecting the time it takes to execute the
+ *     loop function.
+ *  3. CPU clock rate changes.
+ *
+ * Please see this thread:
+ *   http://lists.openwall.net/linux-kernel/2011/01/09/56
  */
 
 #include <linux/kernel.h>
-- 
2.7.4

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-28  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-28  0:59 [GIT PULL][PATCH 0/3] Timekeeping items for 4.11 John Stultz
2017-01-28  0:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] timekeeping: Remove unused timekeeping_{get,set}_tai_offset() John Stultz
2017-01-28  0:59 ` John Stultz [this message]
2017-01-28  0:59 ` [PATCH 3/3] timers: Omit POSIX timer stuff from task_struct when disabled John Stultz

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