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From: Peter Samuelson <peter@cadcamlab.org>
To: "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel-2.4.0-test11 crashed again; this time i send you the Oops-message
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:42:54 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14876.33838.105932.172701@wire.cadcamlab.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001122190747.K2918@wire.cadcamlab.org> <200011230158.eAN1wSr138515@saturn.cs.uml.edu>


[Albert D. Cahalan]
> The infamous LINK_FIRST infrastructure was sort of half-way done.

I disagree: it could handle all cases I could see that we might
reasonably care about.  I challenge anyone to come up with a
non-pathological case that could not be taken care of with a single
LINK_FIRST and/or a single LINK_LAST.

The worst I can think of is something like "all PCI drivers must come
before all ISA drivers" which would require listing all of one set or
the other.  But when you see a case like that, it often means "this
directory really needs to be split", because you have two different
classes of things in a single directory.

> It would be best to cause drivers with an unspecified link order
> to move around a bit, so that errors may be discovered more quickly.

That was the plan -- in 2.5.  (The 2.4 version did not disturb any
order at all, unless you explicitly put a LINK_FIRST declaration in the
individual makefile.)  Now that LINK_FIRST is officially dead, none of
this will probably happen at all.

> LINK_FIRST is pretty coarse. One would want a topological sort, or at
> least LINK_0 through LINK_9 _without_ anything else.

Too complex, no easy upgrade path (read: too different from status
quo), very little benefit over LINK_FIRST + LINK_LAST.  For the
topological sort in particular I'm interestested in how it's even
possible to do in a non-intrusive and maintainable way.

Peter
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2000-11-23  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-20 21:03 Oliver Poths
2000-11-20 21:22 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-20 22:07   ` Oliver Poths
     [not found]   ` <20001120.22074300@rock>
2000-11-20 22:52     ` Neil Brown
2000-11-23  1:07       ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-23  1:58         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-11-23  2:19           ` Keith Owens
2000-11-25  5:41             ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-11-23  2:42           ` Peter Samuelson [this message]

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