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From: Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	mhocko@suse.de, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"benh@kernel.crashing.org" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 3/6] x86/mmap: properly account for stack randomization in mmap_base
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2017 08:16:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1496492216.21640.3.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+MhA=B3cGZR+btdhz1VNM01uoWFOc2D0bKGJc0Y76q9A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2017-06-02 at 21:46 -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:20 AM,  <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> > From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > 
> > When RLIMIT_STACK is, for example, 256MB, the current code results
> > in
> > a gap between the top of the task and mmap_base of 256MB, failing to
> > take into account the amount by which the stack address was
> > randomized.
> > In other words, the stack gets less than RLIMIT_STACK space.
> 
> Is this entirely accurate? The top of the task would be task_size, but
> this code is using task_size / 6 * 5 as the bottom of stack / top of
> mmap gap_max. Is there a reason for this?

MIN_GAP / MAX_GAP are only the boundaries that this gap is clamped to.

If it's not smaller than MIN_GAP, MIN_GAP isn't used. If it's not larger
than MAX_GAP, MAX_GAP isn't used. The stack randomization is currently
only taken into account for MIN_GAP. This only fixes that bug by always
taking it into account. It's not a subjective design change.

The MAX_GAP value is 5/6 of the address space which is overly large but
that's a separate bug.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-03 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-02 15:20 [PATCH 0/6] move mmap_area and PIE binaries away from the stack riel
2017-06-02 15:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] binfmt_elf: document load_bias a little bit riel
2017-06-02 19:27   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2017-06-02 15:20 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86/elf: move 32 bit ELF_ET_DYN_BASE to 256MB riel
2017-06-03  4:22   ` Kees Cook
2017-06-03 11:57     ` Daniel Micay
2017-06-05 13:54     ` Rik van Riel
2017-06-02 15:20 ` [PATCH 3/6] x86/mmap: properly account for stack randomization in mmap_base riel
2017-06-03  4:46   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2017-06-03 12:16     ` Daniel Micay [this message]
2017-06-02 15:20 ` [PATCH 4/6] arm64/mmap: " riel
2017-06-02 15:20 ` [PATCH 5/6] arm64: move COMPAT_ELF_ET_DYN_BASE lower in the address space riel
2017-06-02 15:20 ` [PATCH 6/6] powerpc,mmap: properly account for stack randomization in mmap_base riel
2017-06-03  4:37 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/6] move mmap_area and PIE binaries away from the stack Kees Cook
2017-06-03 12:14   ` Daniel Micay

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