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From: Paul Kocialkowski <contact@paulk.fr>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew F . Davis" <afd@ti.com>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sre@kernel.org>,
	"Chris Lapa" <chris@lapa.com.au>,
	"Matt Ranostay" <mranostay@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] power: supply: bq27xxx: Correct supply status with current draw
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 13:08:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1496916532.12882.2.camel@paulk.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170607195023.GA4083@amd>

Hey,

On Wed, 2017-06-07 at 21:50 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > On Wed, 2017-06-07 at 09:52 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > [0]: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/
> > > > comm
> > > > it/?
> > > > h=v4.12-rc4&id=7f93e1fa032bb5ee19b868b9649bc98c82553003
> > > 
> > > Is there some documentation that explains what different power supply
> > > statuses mean? Because without that, we can have long and useless
> > > discussions.
> > 
> > Well, I couldn't really find much except the following from Documentation/
> > (which is not that helpful, and the BATTERY_STATUS_* don't seem to exist
> > anymore):
> > 
> > " STATUS - this attribute represents operating status (charging, full,
> > discharging (i.e. powering a load), etc.). This corresponds to
> > BATTERY_STATUS_* values, as defined in battery.h. "
> > 
> > Generally speaking, I think the question to be asked is what information
> > users
> > will be interested in in each scenario we have to consider.
> 
> Hmm. We really should add some documentation :-(.

Maybe we should start a new thread about this to give it more visibility.
That way, PM maintainers could weigh-in and share thoughts.

I definitely agree there is a need to clarify what we want to report to
userspace given the various scenarios we've been discussing.

> > > If you have 40Wh battery, and you are charging it with 1mW, I don't
> > > believe you should be indicating "charging". That battery is
> > > full. Yes, even full batteries are sometimes charged with very low
> > > currents to keep them full.
> > 
> > That makes sense. Note that this patch was however designed to solve the
> > problem
> > the other way round: my device will report full battery when the PSU was
> > disconnected and that it is, in fact, drawing significant current.
> 
> That is documented / correct behaviour sometimes. Thinkpad batteries
> have thresholds -- lets say 100% and 95%. They charge battery to full
> (as expected), but then they won't start charging battery again unless
> it drops below 95%. So you can have "battery full, charger
> disconnected" state.
> 
> [Design like this prolongs longevity of li-ion batteries.]

That is definitely good to know.

> > > And I'm not sure what this is supposed to do, but its quite strange
> > > code.
> > 
> > Could you comment on what is strange about it? This function corrects the
> > status
> > based on the current flow as explained through this thread.
> > 
> > > +static int sbs_status_correct(struct i2c_client *client, int *intval)
> > > +{
> > > +	int ret;
> > > +
> > > +	ret = sbs_read_word_data(client, sbs_data[REG_CURRENT].addr);
> > > +	if (ret < 0)
> > > +	   return ret;
> > > +
> > > +	ret = (s16)ret;
> 
> The last line ... is strange.

The trick here is that sbs_read_word_data will return a negative value (on 32
bits) when an error (say, I/O related) happens, but the current (returned
directly by the call) can also have a legit negative value (current draw).

However, the current value is stored on 16 bytes, so the trick is the use the
upper 2 remaining bytes for error reporting and if there's no error, cast the
value to a signed 16-bit value to get the (legit) signed current value.

-- 
Paul Kocialkowski, developer of free digital technology and hardware support

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-08 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-30 18:27 [PATCH 1/5] power: supply: bq27xxx: Pass of_node along to allow device-tree supply Paul Kocialkowski
2017-04-30 18:27 ` [PATCH 2/5] power: supply: bq27xxx: Register power supply with devm Paul Kocialkowski
2017-05-01 10:55   ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-05-07 17:43     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2017-04-30 18:27 ` [PATCH 3/5] power: supply: bq27xxx: Rename work structure member to poll_work Paul Kocialkowski
2017-04-30 18:27 ` [PATCH 4/5] power: supply: bq27xxx: Look for status change on external power change Paul Kocialkowski
2017-05-05  8:04   ` Pali Rohár
2017-05-07 17:37     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2017-05-08 13:04       ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-30 18:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] power: supply: bq27xxx: Correct supply status with current draw Paul Kocialkowski
2017-05-28 19:16   ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-31 16:55     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2017-05-31 17:32       ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-31 19:28         ` Paul Kocialkowski
2017-06-07  7:15           ` Paul Kocialkowski
2017-06-07  7:52             ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-07 15:20               ` Paul Kocialkowski
2017-06-07 19:50                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-08 10:08                   ` Paul Kocialkowski [this message]
2017-06-08 19:27                     ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-06-09  6:16                       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2017-06-13 12:14                         ` Sebastian Reichel

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