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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Swapnil Sapkal <Swapnil.Sapkal@amd.com>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>, Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] sched/fair: Introduce UTIL_FITS_CAPACITY feature (v2)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 17:03:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14ab201e-0170-4dd7-a1ec-7587fe27385a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZTdf0529DL51pj8m@chenyu5-mobl2.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On 24/10/2023 08:10, Chen Yu wrote:
> On 2023-10-23 at 11:04:49 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> On 2023-10-23 10:11, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2023 18:05, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:

[...]

>>> Or like find_energy_efficient_cpu() (feec(), used in
>>> Energy-Aware-Scheduling (EAS)) which uses cpu_util(cpu, p, cpu, 0) to get:
>>>
>>>    max(util_avg(CPU + p), util_est(CPU + p))
>>
>> I've tried using cpu_util(), but unfortunately anything that considers
>> blocked/sleeping tasks in its utilization total does not work for my
>> use-case.
>>
>> From cpu_util():
>>
>>  * CPU utilization is the sum of running time of runnable tasks plus the
>>  * recent utilization of currently non-runnable tasks on that CPU.
>>
> 
> I thought cpu_util() indicates the utilization decay sum of task that was once
> "running" on this CPU, but will not sum up the "util/load" of the blocked/sleeping
> task?

cpu_util() here refers to:

    cpu_util(int cpu, struct task_struct *p, int dst_cpu, int boost)

which when called with (cpu, p, cpu, 0) and task_cpu(p) != cpu returns:

    max(util_avg(CPU + p), util_est(CPU + p))

The term `CPU utilization` in cpu_util()'s header stands for
cfs_rq->avg.util_avg.

It does not sum up the utilization of blocked tasks but it can contain
it. They have to be a blocked tasks and not tasks which were running in
cfs_rq since we subtract utilization of tasks which are migrating away
from the cfs_rq (cfs_rq->removed.util_avg in remove_entity_load_avg()
and update_cfs_rq_load_avg()).
> accumulate_sum()
>     /* only the running task's util will be sum up */
>     if (running)
>        sa->util_sum += contrib << SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT;
> 
> WRITE_ONCE(sa->util_avg, sa->util_sum / divider);

__update_load_avg_cfs_rq()

  ___update_load_sum(..., cfs_rq->curr != NULL
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          running
    accumulate_sum()

      if (periods)
        /* decay _sum */
        sa->util_sum = decay_load(sa->util_sum, ...)

        if (load)
          /* decay and accrue _sum */
          contrib = __accumulate_pelt_segments(...)

When crossing periods we decay the old _sum and when additionally load
!= 0 we decay and accrue the new _sum as well.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-24 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-19 16:05 [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] sched/fair migration reduction features Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-10-19 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] sched/fair: Introduce UTIL_FITS_CAPACITY feature (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-10-23 14:11   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-10-23 15:04     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-10-24  6:10       ` Chen Yu
2023-10-24 14:49         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-10-25  7:19           ` Chen Yu
2023-10-24 15:03         ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2023-10-25  7:34           ` Chen Yu
2023-10-24 14:10       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-10-25  7:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-25 14:04     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-10-19 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] sched/fair: Introduce SELECT_BIAS_PREV to reduce migrations Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-10-27  3:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] sched/fair migration reduction features K Prateek Nayak
2023-11-06  5:52   ` Chen Yu
2023-11-06  7:06     ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-11-06 17:18       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-07  3:02         ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-11-06 16:32   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-09 14:58     ` Chen Yu

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