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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: page_launder() bug
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:44:37 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15095.9557.998522.571971@pizda.ninka.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d6npn$dhp$1@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.31.0105062307290.59664-100000@pandora.inf.elte.hu> <9d6npn$dhp$1@penguin.transmeta.com>


Linus Torvalds writes:
 > The whole "dead_swap_page" optimization in the -ac tree is apparentrly
 > completely bogus.  It caches a value that is not valid: you cannot
 > reliably look at whether the page has buffers etc without holding the
 > page locked. 

It caches a value controlling heuristics, not "state".  Specifically
it controls whether we:

1) Ignore the referenced bit, this is fine.

2) Allow writepage() operations in the first pass.  This is fine too.

All normal checks are redone, only heuristics are changed.

Please show me how this is illegal.  Everyone comes to this conclusion
when the first read the code, that I am doing something illegal, then
when I explain what that dead_swap_page thing is doing and they read
it a second time (how shocking! :-) they go "oh, I see".

If the patch is causing problems, it is due to some other bug not my
patch itself.

I do not argue that my patch is "the" way to solve the dead swap page
problem, to the contrary.  Stephen has something which seems to try to
attack this issue in a much nicer way.

Later,
David S. Miller
davem@redhat.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-07 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-06 21:08 BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-05-06 21:59 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-06 22:07   ` BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-05-07  4:55 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07  5:19   ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-05-07  6:26   ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-05-07  8:59     ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-07 19:02       ` J . A . Magallon
2001-05-08  7:52         ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-10 12:19           ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-10 10:51         ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-05-07 10:52     ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 13:49     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-07 13:53     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-07  8:54   ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07 15:12     ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-05-07 14:52   ` Horst von Brand
     [not found]     ` <davem@redhat.com>
2001-11-21  7:16       ` [VM/MEMORY-SICKNESS] 2.4.15-pre7 kmem_cache_create invalid opcode Jeff V. Merkey
2001-11-21  6:22         ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  6:47           ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  6:54             ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  6:56             ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  7:03               ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  7:49                 ` arjan
2001-11-21 18:31                   ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 19:06                     ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-21 19:51                       ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 19:58                         ` J Sloan
2001-11-21 20:38                         ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-21 21:17                           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 19:16                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-11-21 19:53                       ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 20:36                         ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-21 21:16                           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 21:28                           ` Robert Love
2001-11-21  7:09               ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  7:14                 ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  7:28               ` Stuart Young
2001-11-21  7:33           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-11-21  6:54             ` Chris Abbey
2001-11-21  7:05               ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  6:47         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-21 18:28           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  8:49         ` Alan Cox
2001-11-21 18:28           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-05-08 17:59   ` page_launder() bug Kai Henningsen
2001-05-09  2:32   ` Rusty Russell
2001-05-09  8:43     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-09  3:36   ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-07 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-07 21:22   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-07 23:23     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-07 21:50       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-07 23:52         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-07 22:26           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  2:29             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-13 16:08               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 19:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14 22:05                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  0:16           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  2:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  1:40               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  3:46                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  2:37                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08 21:16                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08 23:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08 23:53                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-09  2:13                       ` David S. Miller
2001-05-09 17:38                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-09 20:05                         ` David S. Miller
2001-05-09 18:40                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-09 21:08                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-09 19:50                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-13 16:34                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 19:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-13 19:39                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 20:42                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14  7:05                                 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-13 17:52                         ` David S. Miller
2001-05-13 17:55                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 18:00                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  6:50                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  7:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08 18:53                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  8:29                   ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  3:22               ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  3:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  2:47             ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  1:34               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  3:18               ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  1:47                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  3:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  3:29                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08 10:36                   ` BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-05-08 12:33             ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-05-13 16:24               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 21:02                 ` Another VM race? (was: page_launder() bug) Mikulas Patocka
2001-05-13 23:04                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-14  9:53                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-05-08  0:06         ` page_launder() bug David S. Miller
2001-05-07 23:31     ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07 22:44 ` David S. Miller [this message]
2001-05-08  1:00   ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-07  0:32 Jonathan Lundell

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