From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:41:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:41:41 -0400 Received: from pizda.ninka.net ([216.101.162.242]:46774 "EHLO pizda.ninka.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:41:28 -0400 From: "David S. Miller" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15096.44626.349846.309176@pizda.ninka.net> Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:41:22 -0700 (PDT) To: jamal Cc: , , , Sally Floyd , , Subject: Re: ECN: Volunteers needed In-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 13) "Crater Lake" XEmacs Lucid Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org jamal writes: > Help is needed to contact these site owners and politely using a standard > email ask them that their site was non-conformant. > Point them to Sally's draft and the fact that ECN is becoming standard > in the next week or so. Also to Jeff's ECN-under-Linux Unofficial > Vendor Support Page, and to encourage them to have their firewall > or load-balancer upgraded. > I suppose the first volunteer needed is to draft such an email. We have to > be polite and persistent for this to work. I believe it would only be prudent to actually send out these messages starting at the moment ECN is officially standard. This was the big argument I was running into from sites, "well it isn't standard yet, when it is we'll do something about it". The larger sites like to avoid updates until absolutely necessary. If we are to improve ECN deployment, we should understand the priorities of the people who run the sites which stand in the way of our doing so. Later, David S. Miller davem@redhat.com