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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"nikunj@amd.com" <nikunj@amd.com>
Cc: "thomas.lendacky@amd.com" <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86: Reject KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ vCPU ioctl for TSC protected guest
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2025 07:27:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <150fc6eca8e66d97a4280fefcf16ba33ac19ce68.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85ms9btfez.fsf@amd.com>

On Fri, 2025-07-11 at 06:22 +0000, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, 2025-07-09 at 14:09 +0530, Nikunj A. Dadhania wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 7/9/2025 11:07 AM, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > > Reject KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ vCPU ioctl if guest's TSC is protected and not
> > > > changeable by KVM.
> > > > 
> > > > For such TSC protected guests, e.g. TDX guests, typically the TSC is
> > > > configured once at VM level before any vCPU are created and remains
> > > > unchanged during VM's lifetime.  KVM provides the KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ VM
> > > > scope ioctl to allow the userspace VMM to configure the TSC of such VM.
> > > > After that the userspace VMM is not supposed to call the KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ
> > > > vCPU scope ioctl anymore when creating the vCPU.
> > > > 
> > > > The de facto userspace VMM Qemu does this for TDX guests.  The upcoming
> > > > SEV-SNP guests with Secure TSC should follow.
> > > > 
> > > > Note this could be a break of ABI.  But for now only TDX guests are TSC
> > > > protected and only Qemu supports TDX, thus in practice this should not
> > > > break any existing userspace.
> > > > 
> > > > Suggested-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
> > > 
> > > Need to add this in Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst as well, saying that
> > > for TDX and SecureTSC enabled SNP guests, KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ vCPU ioctl is
> > > not valid.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Good point.  Thanks for bringing it up.
> > 
> > I will add below to the doc unless someone has comments?
> > 
> > I'll probably split the doc diff into two parts and merge each to the
> > respective code change patch, since the change to the doc contains change
> > to both vm ioctl and vcpu ioctl.
> > 
> > Btw, I think I'll not mention Secure TSC enabled SEV-SNP guests for now
> > because it is not in upstream yet.  But I tried to make the text in a way
> > that could be easily extended to cover Secure TSC guests.
> 
> Sure, I can add that later.
> 
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > index 43ed57e048a8..ad61bcba3791 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > @@ -2006,7 +2006,13 @@ frequency is KHz.
> >  
> >  If the KVM_CAP_VM_TSC_CONTROL capability is advertised, this can also
> >  be used as a vm ioctl to set the initial tsc frequency of subsequently
> > -created vCPUs.
> > +created vCPUs.  It must be called before any vCPU is created.
> 
> s/It/The VM Scope ioctl/

OK.  I'll use "The vm ioctl", though, to make it consistent with the
previous sentence.

> 
> > +
> > +For TSC protected CoCo VMs where TSC is configured once at VM scope
> > and
> 
> s/CoCo/Confidential Computing (CoCo)/
> s/TSC is/TSC frequency is/

OK.

> 
> > +remains unchanged during VM's lifetime, the VM ioctl should be used to
> > +configure the TSC and the vCPU ioctl fails.
> 
> s/TSC/TSC frequency/
> 
> s/vcpu ioctl fails/vcpu ioctl is not supported/

OK.

> 
> > +
> > +
> > +Example of such CoCo VMs: TDX guests.
> 
> Regards
> Nikunj

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-13  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-09  5:37 [PATCH 0/2] Improve KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ handling for CoCo VMs Kai Huang
2025-07-09  5:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86: Reject KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ vCPU ioctl for TSC protected guest Kai Huang
2025-07-09  6:40   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-09  8:39   ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-07-10 22:52     ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-11  6:22       ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2025-07-13  7:27         ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2025-07-09  5:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: x86: Reject KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ VM ioctl when vCPU has been created Kai Huang
2025-07-09  6:40   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-09  8:34   ` Chao Gao
2025-07-09 13:55     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-10 22:53       ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-11  0:24         ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-11  2:17           ` Chao Gao
2025-07-11  2:46             ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-09  8:51   ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-07-10 22:54     ` Huang, Kai

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