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From: "Woodhouse, David" <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: <x86@kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, <pjt@google.com>,
	<luto@kernel.org>, <peterz@infradead.org>,
	<thomas.lendacky@amd.com>, <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	<gregkh@linux-foundation.org>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	<jikos@kernel.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] x86/retpoline: Use better sequences for NOSPEC_CALL/JMP
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 13:26:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1515590771.22302.157.camel@amazon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180110022831.29826-3-andi@firstfloor.org>

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On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 18:28 -0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> 
> [This fixes a boot failure in the earlier patches
> so may want to be moved earlier to keep git bisect
> happy]
>
> With the latest tip x86/pti I get oopses when booting
> a 64bit VM in qemu with RETPOLINE/gcc7 and PTI enabled.
> Something is wrong with the ALTERNATIVE_2 sequence
> used in NOSPEC_JMP
> 
> Linus suggested a better sequence that is shorter
> and simpler and avoids the problem.


This is just masking a problem which has now been fixed properly
elsewhere — by removing the NOPs from the start of the underlying
RETPOLINE_JMP sequence, *and* by fixing the alternatives mechanism not
to get confused when the altinstr sequence starts with a NOP.

I'm not really convinced by the alternative. It's actually *longer*,
because the lfence can no longer be tucked away in the space that the
full retpoline implementation would have taken. You've prepended a
three-byte 'nop' to the full retpoline.

And I'm not really sure it's simpler either. We go from "do <this>, or
<this> or <this>", with each alternative being a complete and
equivalent way to branch to the register, to a more complex matrix
based on two conditions.

On the whole, given that the actual bug is fixed already, I am inclined
to dismiss this — albeit carefully, since it was partly Linus'
suggestion — as bikeshedding.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-10 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-10  2:28 Update retpoline boot fix Andi Kleen
2018-01-10  2:28 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] x86/retpoline: Add X86_FEATURE_RETPOLINE_GENERIC Andi Kleen
2018-01-10  2:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] x86/retpoline: Use better sequences for NOSPEC_CALL/JMP Andi Kleen
2018-01-10 13:26   ` Woodhouse, David [this message]
2018-01-10  2:28 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] x86/retpoline: Convert generic specific retpolines to use RETPOLINE_GENERIC Andi Kleen
2018-01-10 13:15   ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-10 14:23     ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-10 14:46       ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-10 15:18         ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-10 15:20           ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-10 10:41 ` Update retpoline boot fix Thomas Gleixner

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