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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com (Jeff Garzik),
	bcrl@redhat.com (Ben LaHaise), jes@sunsite.dk (Jes Sorensen),
	hiren_mehta@agilent.com ("MEHTA,HIREN (A-SanJose,ex1)"),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ('linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org')
Subject: Re: (reposting) how to get DMA'able memory within 4GB on 64-bit m
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 06:00:03 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15175.2003.773317.101601@pizda.ninka.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15Ir5R-0005lR-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <3B46FDF1.A38E5BB6@mandrakesoft.com> <E15Ir5R-0005lR-00@the-village.bc.nu>


Alan Cox writes:
 > I see no good way to optimise for 64bit dma on a 32bit box.

I'm actually not only talking about DAC device on 32-bit cpus.  Just
as much, I'm talking about drivers for SAC-only devices even on 64-bit
cpus.

I took a lot of crap from driver authors when we started pushing the
PCI dma stuff on people, because of the dma_addr_t people now had to
keep around to unmap the thing later.

To a certain extent I agreed with these folks.  I'll be gutting myself
if I make everyone eat twice as much space just to add DAC support to
the kernel :-)

>From yet another perspective, my proposals have also to do with what
API can actually work on all platforms.  This is pretty important to
me.  I remember yesteryear when I used to give myself the privilege
of being self-arch-centric in my work, a Sparc hack here, a Sparc hack
there.  But I simply cannot operate this way anymore.  My conscious
will no longer allow me to crap up things like that :-)

 > I don't agree with Dave's desire to write another whole concoction.

It needs to be a new set of interfaces (and at that point, why not use
a different dma64_addr_t type and save overhead for SAC-only devices
while we're at it :-) because the proper inputs for a DAC mapping
involve page/off/len pairs.

Ignoring addressing limits of 32-bit cpus for a moment, consider that
this page/off/len triplet is the natural currency the kernel uses for
this kind of stuff anyways.

I think it is interesting to note that Jens noticed this immediately,
him being the first person to actually try and implement something
that would work on 32-bit platforms.

Later,
David S. Miller
davem@redhat.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-07 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-28 16:20 (reposting) how to get DMA'able memory within 4GB on 64-bit m achi ne MEHTA,HIREN (A-SanJose,ex1)
2001-06-28 19:41 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-28 21:45 ` David S. Miller
2001-06-28 22:01 ` David S. Miller
2001-06-28 22:20   ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-28 22:28     ` Alan Cox
2001-07-02  8:09       ` Jens Axboe
2001-06-28 22:24   ` Ben LaHaise
2001-07-02  8:09     ` Jens Axboe
2001-06-28 22:27   ` David S. Miller
2001-06-28 22:29   ` David S. Miller
2001-06-28 22:31     ` Ben LaHaise
2001-06-28 22:40       ` (reposting) how to get DMA'able memory within 4GB on 64-bit m Alan Cox
2001-06-28 22:38     ` (reposting) how to get DMA'able memory within 4GB on 64-bit m achi ne David S. Miller
2001-06-28 22:45       ` Ben LaHaise
2001-06-28 22:48       ` David S. Miller
2001-06-28 22:48       ` (reposting) how to get DMA'able memory within 4GB on 64-bit m Alan Cox
2001-06-28 22:55       ` (reposting) how to get DMA'able memory within 4GB on 64-bit m achi ne Jes Sorensen
2001-06-29  9:16       ` David S. Miller
2001-06-29  9:56         ` Alan Cox
2001-06-29 20:37         ` David S. Miller
2001-07-05 21:06           ` Jes Sorensen
2001-07-05 23:47           ` David S. Miller
2001-07-05 23:50             ` Ben LaHaise
2001-07-06 13:31             ` Jes Sorensen
2001-07-06 23:46             ` David S. Miller
2001-07-07  3:58               ` Ben LaHaise
2001-07-07  5:35               ` David S. Miller
2001-07-07 12:06                 ` (reposting) how to get DMA'able memory within 4GB on 64-bit m Alan Cox
2001-07-07 12:17                   ` Jeff Garzik
2001-07-07 12:21                     ` Alan Cox
2001-07-07 13:00                     ` David S. Miller [this message]
2001-07-11 19:16                       ` Jes Sorensen
2001-07-11 21:54                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-11 23:17                         ` David S. Miller
2001-07-11 23:07                       ` David S. Miller

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