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From: Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@wdc.com>
To: "tj@kernel.org" <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"jannh@google.com" <jannh@google.com>,
	"bcrl@kvack.org" <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	"torvalds@linux-foundation.org" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"kernel-team@fb.com" <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	"security@kernel.org" <security@kernel.org>,
	"kent.overstreet@gmail.com" <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	"viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] block: Remove superflous rcu_read_[un]lock_sched() in blk_queue_enter()
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 20:05:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1521057929.3006.31.camel@wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180314184636.GC2943022@devbig577.frc2.facebook.com>

On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 11:46 -0700, tj@kernel.org wrote:
> > that are ordered with an RCU read lock (https://lwn.net/Articles/573497/). See
> > also the following comment in scsi_device_quiesce():
> > 
> > 	/*
> > 	 * Ensure that the effect of blk_set_preempt_only() will be visible
> > 	 * for percpu_ref_tryget() callers that occur after the queue
> > 	 * unfreeze even if the queue was already frozen before this function
> > 	 * was called. See also https://lwn.net/Articles/573497/.
> > 	 */
> > 
> > Since this patch introduces a subtle and hard to debug race condition, please
> > drop this patch.
> 
> Hah, the pairing is between scsi_device_quiesce() and
> blk_queue_enter()?  But that doesn't make sense either because
> scsi_device_quiesce() is doing regular synchronize_rcu() and
> blk_queue_enter() is doing rcu_read_lock_sched().  They don't
> interlock with each other in any way.

Can you clarify this further? From <linux/rcupdate.h>:

static inline void synchronize_rcu(void)
{
	synchronize_sched();
}

> So, the right thing to do here would be somehow moving the RCU
> synchronization into blk_set_preempt_only() and switching to regular
> RCU protection in blk_queue_enter().  The code as-is isn't really
> doing anything.

Since the RCU protection in blk_queue_enter() surrounds a percpu_ref_tryget_live()
call and since percpu_ref_tryget_live() calls rcu_read_lock/unlock_sched() itself
I don't think that it is allowed to switch to regular RCU protection in
blk_queue_enter() without modifying the RCU implementation.

Bart.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-14 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-06 17:26 [PATCHSET] percpu_ref, RCU: Audit RCU usages in percpu_ref users Tejun Heo
2018-03-06 17:33 ` [PATCH 1/7] fs/aio: Add explicit RCU grace period when freeing kioctx Tejun Heo
2018-03-06 17:33   ` [PATCH 2/7] fs/aio: Use RCU accessors for kioctx_table->table[] Tejun Heo
2018-03-06 17:33   ` [PATCH 3/7] RDMAVT: Fix synchronization around percpu_ref Tejun Heo
2018-03-07 15:39     ` Dennis Dalessandro
2018-03-06 17:33   ` [PATCH 4/7] HMM: Remove superflous RCU protection around radix tree lookup Tejun Heo
2018-03-06 17:59     ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-06 17:33   ` [PATCH 5/7] block: Remove superflous rcu_read_[un]lock_sched() in blk_queue_enter() Tejun Heo
2018-03-06 17:52     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-03-14 18:46       ` tj
2018-03-14 20:05         ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2018-03-14 20:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-14 20:14             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-03-06 17:33   ` [PATCH 6/7] percpu_ref: Update doc to dissuade users from depending on internal RCU grace periods Tejun Heo
2018-03-06 17:33   ` [PATCH 7/7] RCU, workqueue: Implement rcu_work Tejun Heo
2018-03-06 18:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-09 15:37       ` Tejun Heo
2018-03-07  2:49     ` Lai Jiangshan
2018-03-07 14:54       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-03-07 16:23         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-07 17:58           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-03-08  0:29         ` Lai Jiangshan
2018-03-08 17:28           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-03-09 16:21           ` Tejun Heo

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