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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: VDA <VDA@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NFS daemons in D state for 2 minutes at shutdown
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:25:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15275.1922.771056.17407@charged.uio.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1978861221.20010921110112@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
In-Reply-To: <3531863216.20010920164639@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> <shswv2tpyvq.fsf@charged.uio.no> <1978861221.20010921110112@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>

>>>>> " " == VDA  <VDA@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> writes:

     > Well, do you mean I must update my shutdown script whenever I
     > install something new just because this "something new" does
     > not like standard, well accepted method of signalling apps to
     > exit?  Come on, this sounds like The Wrong Way.

Bullshit. killall5 is definitely *not* a well accepted method for
shutting down applications. Try doing that while your network is
running via a ppp link...

Some programs *have* to be shutdown in a certain order. All RPC
servers fall into that category.

     > So, why modified killall5 does the job?

I've no idea how you modified killall5, but if it manages to kill nfsd
before killing the portmapper, then all will work.

     > Why not make portmapper+NFS daemons killable by TERM, giving
     > them the chance to do proper cleanups rather than abrupt KILL?

NFS daemons *do* perform proper cleanups. That's the whole essence of
your problem - they are waiting on the portmapper to acknowledge that
it has unregistered their service. These are *kernel* daemons and so
KILL acts just like any signal as far as they are concerned.

Cheers,
   Trond

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-21  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-20 13:46 VDA
2001-09-20 17:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-09-21  9:25   ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2001-09-21 23:06     ` Trond Myklebust
2001-09-22  0:36       ` Mike Castle
2001-09-21  8:01 ` VDA
2001-09-21 12:46   ` VDA

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