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From: Robert Olsson <Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@alex.org.uk, mingo@elte.hu, hadi@cyberus.ca (jamal),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru (Alexey Kuznetsov),
	Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se (Robert Olsson),
	bcrl@redhat.com (Benjamin LaHaise),
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds),
	sim@netnation.com (Simon Kirby)
Subject: Re: [announce] [patch] limiting IRQ load, irq-rewrite-2.4.11-B5
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:22:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15293.53328.435292.971669@robur.slu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15pGhY-0004Qz-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <302737894.1002234496@[195.224.237.69]> <E15pGhY-0004Qz-00@the-village.bc.nu>


Alan Cox writes:

 > You only think that. After a few minutes the kiddie pulls down your routing
 > because your route daemons execute no code. Also during the attack your sshd
 > wont run so you cant log in to find out what is up

Indeed.

I have a real example from a university core router with BGP and full 
Internet routing. I managed to get in via ssh during the DoS attack. 
We see that the 5 min dropping rate is about the same as the input 
rate. The duration of this attack was more half an hour and BGP survied 
and the box was pretty manageable. This was with a hacked tulip driver 
switching to RX-polling at high loads.
 
eth2: UP Locked MII Full DuplexLink UP
Admin up    6 day(s) 13 hour(s) 47 min 51 sec 
Last input  NOW
Last output NOW
5min RX bit/s   23.9 M
5min TX bit/s   1.1 M
5min RX pkts/s  46439        
5min TX pkts/s  759          
5min TX errors  0            
5min RX errors  0            
5min RX dropped 47038        
5min TX dropped 0            
5min collisions 0            

Well, this was a router but I think we very soon have the same demands for
most Internet servers.

Cheers.
						--ro



  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-10-05 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-02  0:41 jamal
2001-10-02  1:04 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-02  1:54   ` jamal
2001-10-02  5:13     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-02  5:55       ` Ben Greear
2001-10-03  9:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 14:06           ` David Brownell
2001-10-02 12:10       ` jamal
2001-10-02 22:00         ` jamal
2001-10-03  8:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03  9:29             ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-03 12:49             ` jamal
2001-10-03 14:51               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 15:14                 ` jamal
2001-10-03 17:28                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  0:53                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:28                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:34                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 17:40                           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-04 18:33                             ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:50                       ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04  6:52                         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:50                           ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:55                         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-04  6:56                           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 21:28                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-04 21:49                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-04 23:20                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-04 23:26                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-04 23:47                       ` Robert Love
2001-10-04 23:51                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-05  0:00                           ` Ben Greear
2001-10-05  0:18                             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-05  2:01                             ` jamal
2001-10-04 22:01                   ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04 23:25                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-04 23:34                       ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04 22:10                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-04 23:28                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-05 15:22                   ` Robert Olsson [this message]
2001-10-03  9:38           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 13:03             ` jamal
2001-10-03 13:25               ` jamal
2001-10-03 15:28               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 15:56                 ` jamal
2001-10-03 16:51                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  0:46                     ` jamal
2001-10-08  0:31                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-08  4:58                       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-10-08 15:00                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:03                         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-08 15:12                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:09                             ` jamal
2001-10-08 15:22                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:20                                 ` jamal
2001-10-08 15:35                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:57                                     ` jamal
2001-10-08 16:11                                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 16:11                                         ` jamal
2001-10-10 16:26                                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-10 16:25                                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-08 15:24                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-08 15:35                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:19                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-08 15:10                       ` bill davidsen
2001-10-03 21:08                   ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03 22:22                     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-04 17:32                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-05 14:52                     ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-05 18:48                       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-05 19:07                         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-05 19:17                         ` kuznet
2001-10-08 13:58                           ` jamal
2001-10-08 17:42                           ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-08 17:39                             ` jamal
2001-10-07  6:11                         ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03 16:53                 ` kuznet
2001-10-03 17:06                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  0:44                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:35                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:41                         ` jamal
2001-10-05 16:42                         ` kuznet
2001-10-04 13:05                       ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03 19:03                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-04  1:10                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  1:30                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-03 22:31                         ` Rob Landley
2001-10-04  1:39                         ` jamal
2001-10-03 15:42               ` Ben Greear
2001-10-03 15:58                 ` jamal
2001-10-03 16:09                   ` Ben Greear
2001-10-03 16:14                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 16:20                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-03 16:33                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-03 17:25                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 18:11                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-03 20:41                       ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-10-03 20:02                   ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04  1:04                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:47                       ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04  7:41                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-04 16:09                           ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04 17:32                             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-04 18:03                               ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04 18:30                           ` Christopher E. Brown
2001-10-04 11:47                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 15:56                           ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04 18:23                             ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:50                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:49                         ` jamal
2001-10-04  8:45                       ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04 11:54                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 15:03                           ` Tim Hockin
2001-10-04 18:55                           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-10-04 19:00                             ` jamal
2001-10-04 21:16                               ` Ion Badulescu
2001-10-04  4:12                   ` bill davidsen
2001-10-04 18:16                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-03 13:38             ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-04 21:22               ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-05 14:32               ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03  8:38         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  3:50           ` bill davidsen
2001-10-02 17:03       ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-02 17:37         ` jamal
2001-10-02 19:46         ` Andreas Dilger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-08 14:45 jamal
2001-10-09  0:36 ` Scott Laird
2001-10-09  3:17   ` jamal
2001-10-09  4:04 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-10-04  8:25 Magnus Redin
2001-10-04 11:39 ` Trever L. Adams
     [not found] <200110031811.f93IBoN10026@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-10-03 18:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  9:19   ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-04  9:22     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  9:49       ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-04 10:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-07 20:37           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-03 14:15 Manfred Spraul
2001-10-03 15:09 ` jamal
2001-10-03 18:37   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-01 22:16 Ingo Molnar
2001-10-01 22:26 ` Tim Hockin
2001-10-01 22:50   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-01 22:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-01 22:50 ` Ben Greear
2001-10-02 14:30   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-02 20:51     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-01 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-02  6:50 ` Marcus Sundberg
2001-10-03  8:47   ` Ingo Molnar

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