From: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] x86/mm/tlb: Defer PTI flushes
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 23:55:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <154B90AD-7EC3-4B86-8061-D737A948A77C@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrX91RqYsetbTjfrsMHH8LhTW=YMPuatHuo0bdTJeejP=Q@mail.gmail.com>
> On Aug 27, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:13 PM Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com> wrote:
>> INVPCID is considerably slower than INVLPG of a single PTE. Using it to
>> flush the user page-tables when PTI is enabled therefore introduces
>> significant overhead.
>>
>> Instead, unless page-tables are released, it is possible to defer the
>> flushing of the user page-tables until the time the code returns to
>> userspace. These page tables are not in use, so deferring them is not a
>> security hazard.
>
> I agree and, in fact, I argued against ever using INVPCID in the
> original PTI code.
>
> However, I don't see what freeing page tables has to do with this. If
> the CPU can actually do speculative page walks based on the contents
> of non-current-PCID TLB entries, then we have major problems, since we
> don't actively flush the TLB for non-running mms at all.
That was not my concern.
>
> I suppose that, if we free a page table, then we can't activate the
> PCID by writing to CR3 before flushing things. But we can still defer
> the flush and just set the flush bit when we write to CR3.
This was my concern. I can change the behavior so the code would flush the
whole TLB instead. I just tried not to change the existing behavior too
much.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-27 23:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-23 22:52 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] x86/mm/tlb: Defer TLB flushes with PTI Nadav Amit
2019-08-23 22:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] x86/mm/tlb: Change __flush_tlb_one_user interface Nadav Amit
2019-08-26 7:51 ` Juergen Gross
2019-08-26 16:38 ` Nadav Amit
2019-08-27 5:53 ` Juergen Gross
2019-08-23 22:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] x86/mm/tlb: Defer PTI flushes Nadav Amit
2019-08-27 18:28 ` Dave Hansen
2019-08-27 19:46 ` Nadav Amit
2019-08-27 23:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-27 23:55 ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2019-08-28 0:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-23 22:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] x86/mm/tlb: Avoid deferring PTI flushes on shootdown Nadav Amit
2019-08-27 23:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-27 23:57 ` Nadav Amit
2019-08-28 0:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-27 18:17 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] x86/mm/tlb: Defer TLB flushes with PTI Dave Hansen
2019-09-03 15:17 ` Dave Hansen
2019-09-03 16:13 ` Nadav Amit
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