From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Cc: Jiang Liu <liuj97@gmail.com>, Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
Kenji Kaneshige <kaneshige.kenji@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Yijing Wang <wangyijing@huawei.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>,
Myron Stowe <myron.stowe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 0/8] introduce PCI bus notifier chain to get rid of the ACPI PCI subdriver interfaces
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:34:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1598719.tGLtx5aHMZ@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo6M-c3diVEUpUESgL=2PenxHYkW1eb=OGBdxxWwkge-Bw@mail.gmail.com>
On Monday, January 28, 2013 01:56:33 PM Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Jiang Liu <liuj97@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is an RFC patchset to address review comments in thread at:
> > https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1946851/. The patch just pasts
> > compilation. If no objection to the new implementation, I will
> > go on to modify acpiphp driver and conduct tests.
> >
> > The main changes from V4 to V5 includes:
> > 1) introduce a dedicated notifier chain for PCI buses
> > 2) change pci_slot as built-in driver
> > 3) unify the way to create/destroy PCI slots
> > 4) introduce a kernel option to disable PCIe native hotplug
> >
> > TODO:
> > 1) change acpiphp as built-in and unify the way to create/destroy ACPI
> > based hotplug slots.
> > 2) change other ACPI PCI subdriver in Yinghai's root bridge hotplug series
> > to use the PCI bus notifier chain.
> > 3) Remove the ACPI PCI subdriver interface eventaully.
> >
> > Jiang Liu (8):
> > PCI: make PCI device create/destroy logic symmetric
> > PCI: split registration of PCI bus devices into two stages
> > PCI: add a blocking notifier chain for PCI bus addition/removal
> > ACPI, PCI: avoid building pci_slot as module
> > PCI, ACPI: hook PCI bus notifications to create/destroy PCI slots
> > pci_slot: replace printk(KERN_xxx) with pr_xxx()
> > PCI/PCIe: add "pci=nopciehp" to disable PCIe native hotplug
> > PCI/PCIe: only claim PME from firmware when CONFIG_PCIE_PME is
> > enabled
> >
> > Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 2 +
> > drivers/acpi/Kconfig | 5 +-
> > drivers/acpi/internal.h | 5 +
> > drivers/acpi/pci_root.c | 8 +-
> > drivers/acpi/pci_slot.c | 217 ++++++++++-------------------------
> > drivers/acpi/scan.c | 1 +
> > drivers/pci/bus.c | 26 ++++-
> > drivers/pci/pci.c | 2 +
> > drivers/pci/pci.h | 1 +
> > drivers/pci/pcie/portdrv_core.c | 7 +-
> > drivers/pci/pcie/portdrv_pci.c | 3 +
> > drivers/pci/probe.c | 7 +-
> > drivers/pci/remove.c | 15 +--
> > include/linux/pci.h | 21 ++++
> > 14 files changed, 142 insertions(+), 178 deletions(-)
>
> I think the problem we're trying to solve is that we don't initialize
> hot-added devices, correctly, e.g., we don't set up AER, we don't
> update acpi/pci_slot stuff, we probably don't set up PME etc. We also
> have similar issues like IOMMU init on powerpc.
>
> Notifier chains seem like an unnecessarily complicated way to deal
> with this. They're great for communicating between modules that stay
> at arm's length from each other. But that's not the case here --
> everything is PCI and is quite closely coupled. I think AER, PME,
> slot, etc., should be initialized directly in pci_device_add() or
> somewhere nearby.
I agree.
> This might sound a bit radical because it implies some fairly
> far-reaching changes. It means this code can't be a module (the only
> one that can be built as a module today is pciehp, and I think
> everybody agrees that we should make it static as soon as we can
> figure out the acpiphp/pciehp issue). I think it also means the
> pcieportdrv concept is of dubious value, since all the services should
> be known at build-time and we probably don't need a registration
> interface for them.
It is of dubious value regardless. It just adds complexity for no gain.
Moreover, these things are in fact not mutually independent.
I've had a lot of headaches trying to work around that when I was working
on PME support and later on _OSC for root bridges. Let's just take that
stuff away once and for good. :-)
Thanks,
Rafael
--
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-29 0:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-18 16:07 Jiang Liu
2013-01-18 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/8] PCI: make PCI device create/destroy logic symmetric Jiang Liu
2013-01-20 23:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-18 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v5 2/8] PCI: split registration of PCI bus devices into two stages Jiang Liu
2013-01-18 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v5 3/8] PCI: add a blocking notifier chain for PCI bus addition/removal Jiang Liu
2013-01-20 23:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 16:18 ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-21 22:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-18 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v5 4/8] ACPI, PCI: avoid building pci_slot as module Jiang Liu
2013-01-21 0:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-28 21:09 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-28 21:29 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-28 21:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-28 22:00 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-28 22:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-28 22:58 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-29 2:07 ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-29 2:21 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-29 2:45 ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-29 2:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 4:36 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-01-29 4:36 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-01-29 1:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-02-03 20:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-02-03 20:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-02-03 22:47 ` Myron Stowe
2013-02-03 23:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-18 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v5 5/8] PCI, ACPI: hook PCI bus notifications to create/destroy PCI slots Jiang Liu
2013-01-21 0:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-18 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v5 6/8] pci_slot: replace printk(KERN_xxx) with pr_xxx() Jiang Liu
2013-01-18 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v5 7/8] PCI/PCIe: add "pci=nopciehp" to disable PCIe native hotplug Jiang Liu
2013-01-18 17:35 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-18 17:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-18 22:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-22 16:19 ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-18 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-19 1:56 ` Yijing Wang
2013-01-19 14:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-18 16:07 ` [RFC PATCH v5 8/8] PCI/PCIe: only claim PME from firmware when CONFIG_PCIE_PME is enabled Jiang Liu
2013-01-20 23:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 17:06 ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-28 20:56 ` [RFC PATCH v5 0/8] introduce PCI bus notifier chain to get rid of the ACPI PCI subdriver interfaces Bjorn Helgaas
2013-01-29 0:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2013-01-29 2:04 ` Jiang Liu
2013-02-01 16:13 ` Jiang Liu
2013-02-01 22:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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