From: Dai Ngo <dai.ngo@oracle.com>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/6] nfsd: implement server-stats-get netlink handler
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:42:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <159e382b-8092-4d0b-8b6a-97a54cd8da41@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7ebc7af-9bb0-4c10-8295-7b60b8507bfd@app.fastmail.com>
Hi,
The|wdeleg_getattr| counter tracks the number of times a|GETATTR|
operation conflicts with an outstanding write delegation. As such,
the name|wdeleg_getattr| does not accurately describe what the
counter represents.
Furthermore, this statistic probably does not belong in|nfsstats|.
Since there are no known user-space consumers of this counter, it
would be better to remove it altogether.
Thanks,
-Dai
On 7/16/26 7:28 AM, Chuck Lever wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2026, at 10:16 AM, Chuck Lever wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2026, at 10:12 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2026-07-16 at 10:04 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2026, at 9:53 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 2026-06-19 at 16:40 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026, at 11:26 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>>>>> + /* Per-version procedure counts */
>>>>>>> + if (statp->vs_count) {
>>>>>>> + static const int proc_attrs[] = {
>>>>>>> + [2] = NFSD_A_SERVER_STATS_PROC2_OPS,
>>>>>>> + [3] = NFSD_A_SERVER_STATS_PROC3_OPS,
>>>>>>> + [4] = NFSD_A_SERVER_STATS_PROC4_OPS,
>>>>>>> + };
>>>>>>> + unsigned int i;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> + for (i = 0; i < prog->pg_nvers &&
>>>>>>> + i < ARRAY_SIZE(proc_attrs); i++) {
>>>>>>> + if (!prog->pg_vers[i] ||
>>>>>>> + !statp->vs_count[i])
>>>>>>> + continue;
>>>>>>> + if (!proc_attrs[i])
>>>>>>> + continue;
>>>>>>> + if (nfsd_nl_fill_proc_ops(skb,
>>>>>>> + proc_attrs[i],
>>>>>>> + statp->vs_count[i],
>>>>>>> + prog->pg_vers[i]->vs_nproc))
>>>>>>> + goto err_cancel;
>>>>>>> + }
>>>>>>> + }
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_NFSD_V4
>>>>>>> + /* NFSv4 individual operation counts */
>>>>>>> + for (int i = 0; i <= LAST_NFS4_OP; i++) {
>>>>>>> + struct nlattr *nest;
>>>>>>> + u64 cnt;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> + cnt = percpu_counter_sum_positive(
>>>>>>> + &nn->counter[NFSD_STATS_NFS4_OP(i)]);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> + nest = nla_nest_start(skb,
>>>>>>> + NFSD_A_SERVER_STATS_PROC4OPS_OPS);
>>>>>>> + if (!nest)
>>>>>>> + goto err_cancel;
>>>>>>> + if (nla_put_u32(skb, NFSD_A_SERVER_PROC_ENTRY_OP, i) ||
>>>>>>> + nla_put_u64_64bit(skb, NFSD_A_SERVER_PROC_ENTRY_COUNT,
>>>>>>> + cnt, NFSD_A_SERVER_PROC_ENTRY_PAD)) {
>>>>>>> + nla_nest_cancel(skb, nest);
>>>>>>> + goto err_cancel;
>>>>>>> + }
>>>>>>> + nla_nest_end(skb, nest);
>>>>>>> + }
>>>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>> This loop open-codes the same nest that nfsd_nl_fill_proc_ops() builds just
>>>>>> above -- nla_nest_start(), nla_put_u32(PROC_ENTRY_OP),
>>>>>> nla_put_u64_64bit(PROC_ENTRY_COUNT), nla_nest_end() -- into the same
>>>>>> NFSD_A_SERVER_STATS_PROC4OPS_OPS attribute. Could the helper be generalized
>>>>>> to take the per-op counter source so this is not a second copy of the same
>>>>>> code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The per-version block above skips empty versions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if (!prog->pg_vers[i] || !statp->vs_count[i])
>>>>>> continue;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but this loop emits an entry for every op 0..LAST_NFS4_OP, zero-count ops
>>>>>> included. Is that difference intentional? Skipping zero counts here would
>>>>>> also trim the worst-case message size above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is also a counter that this dump does not emit. /proc/net/rpc/nfsd
>>>>>> prints a wdeleg_getattr line after proc4ops:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> seq_printf(seq, "\nwdeleg_getattr %lld",
>>>>>> percpu_counter_sum_positive(&nn->counter[NFSD_STATS_WDELEG_GETATTR]));
>>>>>>
>>>>>> incremented by nfsd_stats_wdeleg_getattr_inc(). Since the goal is to expose
>>>>>> the statistics currently available via /proc/net/rpc/nfsd, should
>>>>>> wdeleg_getattr get an attribute here too, so nfsstat over netlink does not
>>>>>> drop it relative to the procfs path?
>>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing in this review that is not addressed in my current
>>>>> series is the above comment, and I think we had agreed in an earlier
>>>>> email thread that this was approximately the same value as the counter
>>>>> for CB_GETATTR calls and so it's good enough for this purpose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you still ok with this approach?
>>>> In spite of the email quoting, I’ve still forgotten most of the context
>>>> of that conversation.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at this now, I think someone later could get an urge to add the
>>>> wdeleg_getattr statistic to netlink… for symmetry, because it smells like
>>>> technical debt, or it might actually be useful for something.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO we should include it now.
>>>>
>>> IDGI: what's the point of collecting that stat separately when we have
>>> stats for CB_GETATTR already? I'd prefer to avoid perpetuating
>>> wdeleg_getattr as a stat here, since it's not directly tied to the
>>> protocol in the same way as the others are.
>>>
>>> The only difference between the two is that if another client does a
>>> GETATTR for the fh while there is already a CB_GETATTR in flight,
>>> wdeleg_getattr gets bumped today, whereas CB_GETATTR counter does not
>>> (since there is only a single CB_GETATTR for that).
>>>
>>> Is that difference relevant? I think Dai added wdeleg_getattr
>>> originally, so I'd really like to hear his opinion on this.
>> OK, so you are actually re-litigating whether the stat should exist
>> at all. I confess I had forgotten that context.
>>
>> I’m arguing only that the netlink and procfs APIs should remain
>> equivalent, at least initially. Deleting the stat entirely probably
>> has no consequences right now, but let’s hear from Dai when the US
>> west coast wakes up.
> Another option is to keep the stat but report it some other way.
> It is arguable whether nfsstat is the proper mechanism to report
> the different reasons for sending a CB_GETATTR.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-17 19:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-19 15:26 [PATCH v6 0/6] nfsd/sunrpc: convert nfsstat server-side interfaces to use netlink Jeff Layton
2026-06-19 15:26 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] sunrpc: add per-netns per-procedure call counts to svc_stat Jeff Layton
2026-06-19 15:26 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] sunrpc: use per-net counts in svc_seq_show() Jeff Layton
2026-06-19 15:26 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] nfsd: implement server-stats-get netlink handler Jeff Layton
2026-06-19 20:40 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-16 13:53 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-16 14:04 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-16 14:12 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-16 14:16 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-16 14:28 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-16 14:54 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-17 19:42 ` Dai Ngo [this message]
2026-06-19 15:26 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] sunrpc: remove unused svc_version vs_count field Jeff Layton
2026-06-19 15:26 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] nfsd: count NFSv4 callback operations per netns Jeff Layton
2026-06-19 20:41 ` Chuck Lever
2026-06-19 15:26 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] nfsd: export NFSv4 callback op stats via netlink Jeff Layton
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