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From: Fredrik Markstrom <fredrik.markstrom@gmail.com>
To: "Eric Dumazet" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: "netdev" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Evan Jones" <ej@evanjones.ca>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Cong Wang" <cwang@twopensource.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Vijay Pandurangan" <vijayp@vijayp.ca>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ebiederm" <ebiederm@aristanetworks.com>
Subject: Re: Inconsistency in packet drop due to MTU (eth vs veth)
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 09:07:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15a0303f544.b70bc5d115840.1387609337770969373@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1485880029.6360.118.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>



/F


 ---- On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:27:09 +0100 Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote ---- 
 > On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 14:32 +0100, Fredrik Markstrom wrote: 
 > >  ---- On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:53:47 +0100 Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote ----  
 > >  > On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 17:41 +0100, Fredrik Markstrom wrote:  
 > >  > > Hello,  
 > >  > >   
 > >  > > I've noticed an inconsistency between how physical ethernet and 
 > > veth handles mtu.  
 > >  > >   
 > >  > > If I setup two physical interfaces (directly connected) with 
 > > different mtu:s, only the size of the outgoing packets are limited by 
 > > the mtu. But with veth a packet is dropped if the mtu of the receiving 
 > > interface is smaller then the packet size.   
 > >  > >   
 > >  > > This seems inconsistent to me, but maybe there is a reason for 
 > > it ?   
 > >  > >   
 > >  > > Can someone confirm if it's a deliberate inconsistency or just a 
 > > side effect of using dev_forward_skb() ?  
 > >  >   
 > >  > It looks this was added in commit  
 > >  > 38d408152a86598a50680a82fe3353b506630409  
 > >  > ("veth: Allow setting the L3 MTU")  
 > >  >   
 > >  > But what was really needed here was a way to change MRU :(  
 > >  
 > > Ok, do we consider this correct and/or something we need to be 
 > > backwards compatible with ? Is it insane to believe that we can fix 
 > > this "inconsistency" by removing the check ? 
 > >  
 > > The commit message reads "For consistency I drop packets on the 
 > > receive side when they are larger than the MTU", do we know what it's 
 > > supposed 
 > > to be consistent with or is that lost in history ? 
 >  
 > There is no consistency among existing Ethernet drivers. 
 >  
 > Many ethernet drivers size the buffers they post in RX ring buffer 
 > according to MTU. 
 >  
 > If MTU is set to 1500, RX buffers are sized to be about 1536 bytes, 
 > so you wont be able to receive a 1700 bytes frame. 
 >  
 > I guess that you could add a specific veth attribute to precisely 
 > control MRU, that would not break existing applications. 

Ok, I will propose a patch shortly. And thanks, your response time is
awesome !

/Fredrik

 >  
 >  
 >  
 > 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-03  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-19 16:41 Fredrik Markstrom
2017-01-19 18:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-01-31 13:32   ` Fredrik Markstrom
2017-01-31 16:27     ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-03  8:07       ` Fredrik Markstrom [this message]
2017-02-03 14:42         ` Toshiaki Makita

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