From: Fredrik Markstrom <fredrik.markstrom@gmail.com>
To: "Eric Dumazet" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: "netdev" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Evan Jones" <ej@evanjones.ca>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Cong Wang" <cwang@twopensource.com>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Vijay Pandurangan" <vijayp@vijayp.ca>,
"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"ebiederm" <ebiederm@aristanetworks.com>
Subject: Re: Inconsistency in packet drop due to MTU (eth vs veth)
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 09:07:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <15a0303f544.b70bc5d115840.1387609337770969373@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1485880029.6360.118.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>
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---- On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:27:09 +0100 Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote ----
> On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 14:32 +0100, Fredrik Markstrom wrote:
> > ---- On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:53:47 +0100 Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote ----
> > > On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 17:41 +0100, Fredrik Markstrom wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I've noticed an inconsistency between how physical ethernet and
> > veth handles mtu.
> > > >
> > > > If I setup two physical interfaces (directly connected) with
> > different mtu:s, only the size of the outgoing packets are limited by
> > the mtu. But with veth a packet is dropped if the mtu of the receiving
> > interface is smaller then the packet size.
> > > >
> > > > This seems inconsistent to me, but maybe there is a reason for
> > it ?
> > > >
> > > > Can someone confirm if it's a deliberate inconsistency or just a
> > side effect of using dev_forward_skb() ?
> > >
> > > It looks this was added in commit
> > > 38d408152a86598a50680a82fe3353b506630409
> > > ("veth: Allow setting the L3 MTU")
> > >
> > > But what was really needed here was a way to change MRU :(
> >
> > Ok, do we consider this correct and/or something we need to be
> > backwards compatible with ? Is it insane to believe that we can fix
> > this "inconsistency" by removing the check ?
> >
> > The commit message reads "For consistency I drop packets on the
> > receive side when they are larger than the MTU", do we know what it's
> > supposed
> > to be consistent with or is that lost in history ?
>
> There is no consistency among existing Ethernet drivers.
>
> Many ethernet drivers size the buffers they post in RX ring buffer
> according to MTU.
>
> If MTU is set to 1500, RX buffers are sized to be about 1536 bytes,
> so you wont be able to receive a 1700 bytes frame.
>
> I guess that you could add a specific veth attribute to precisely
> control MRU, that would not break existing applications.
Ok, I will propose a patch shortly. And thanks, your response time is
awesome !
/Fredrik
>
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-03 8:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-19 16:41 Fredrik Markstrom
2017-01-19 18:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-01-31 13:32 ` Fredrik Markstrom
2017-01-31 16:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-03 8:07 ` Fredrik Markstrom [this message]
2017-02-03 14:42 ` Toshiaki Makita
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