From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263786AbTDIUiY (for ); Wed, 9 Apr 2003 16:38:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263789AbTDIUiY (for ); Wed, 9 Apr 2003 16:38:24 -0400 Received: from palrel10.hp.com ([156.153.255.245]:58536 "EHLO palrel10.hp.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263786AbTDIUiW (for ); Wed, 9 Apr 2003 16:38:22 -0400 From: David Mosberger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16020.34678.824488.248372@napali.hpl.hp.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:49:58 -0700 To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: davidm@hpl.hp.com, torvalds@transmeta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: bk pull In-Reply-To: <20030409203836.A9397@infradead.org> References: <200304091927.h39JRob0010157@napali.hpl.hp.com> <20030409203836.A9397@infradead.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.2.1 Reply-To: davidm@hpl.hp.com X-URL: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/David_Mosberger/ Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >>>>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 20:38:36 +0100, Christoph Hellwig said: Christoph> Btw, do you have any plans to push the changes outside Christoph> from arch/ia64 and include/asm-ia64/ in the ia64 patch to Christoph> Linus? It would be really nice if the ia64 port could be Christoph> used with an out-of-the-box kernel. Boy, what a loaded question! Sure, I too would like it if the kernel would always build out-of-the-box, but I don't think it's very realistic. Even if I followed Linus's checkins on an hourly basis (no way in hell I'm ever gonna do that), there is always a chance that he'll accept a patch that will (perhaps subtly) break non-x86 platforms. Having said that, I do submit patches to the respective maintainers quite frequently. I probably should cc linux-kernel more often so others can see that. Anyhow, I think part of the problem is that I'm simply not willing to spend inordinate amounts of time pushing the patches (no, maintaining a kernel tree is not much fun and most definitely underappreciated, so I do want to get some real work done occasionally). For example, the sound driver patches have been around forever, have been submitted multiple times, and each time we get a "yeah, that looks good, let me work on it" and that's the last thing we hear. I think the only two biggies right now are the AGP/DRM changes (which I'm working on) and the virtual mem_map support. The latter I haven't pushed at all so far, mostly because I just haven't had the time/energy/interest to do so. Also, I'm always optimistic someone else comes along to help with the work... ;-) --david