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From: "Tyler W. Ross" <TWR@tylerwross.com>
To: Scott Mayhew <smayhew@redhat.com>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org>,
	"1120598@bugs.debian.org" <1120598@bugs.debian.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
	Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com>,
	Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
	Dai Ngo <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ls input/output error ("NFS: readdir(/) returns -5") on krb5 NFSv4 client using SHA2
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 04:32:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16121fbd-17d1-41c5-ac8d-177533e8afea@TylerWRoss.com> (raw)

On 11/17/25 4:05 PM, Scott Mayhew wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025, Tyler W. Ross wrote:
> 
>> Weird behavior I just discovered:
>>
>> Explicitly setting allowed-enctypes in the gssd section of /etc/nfs.conf
>> to exclude aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96 makes both SHA2 ciphers work as
>> expected (assuming each is allowed).
>>
>> If allowed-enctypes is unset (letting gssd interrogate the kernel for
>> supported enctypes) or includes aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96, then the XDR
>> overflow occurs.
>>
>> Non-working configurations (first is the commented-out default in nfs.conf):
>> allowed-enctypes=aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192,aes128-cts-hmac-sha256-128,camellia256-cts-cmac,camellia128-cts-cmac,aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96,aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>> allowed-enctypes=aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192,aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>> allowed-enctypes=aes128-cts-hmac-sha256-128,aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>> allowed-enctypes=aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192,aes128-cts-hmac-sha256-128,aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>>
>> Working configurations (first is default sans aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96):
>> allowed-enctypes=aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192,aes128-cts-hmac-sha256-128,camellia256-cts-cmac,camellia128-cts-cmac,aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>> allowed-enctypes=aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192,aes128-cts-hmac-sha256-128
>> allowed-enctypes=aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192,aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>> allowed-enctypes=aes128-cts-hmac-sha256-128,aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>>
> 
> That doesn't really make sense.  You should only need to use the
> allowed-enctypes setting if you're talking to an NFS server that doesn't
> have support for the new encryption types.
> 
> It basically works like the "permitted_enctypes" option in krb5.conf,
> except it only affects NFS rather than affecting your krb5 configuration
> as a whole.

Agreed. It really doesn't make sense. It may just be me being confounded 
by some ancillary behavior I don't understand.

I find it especially strange that
allowed-enctypes=aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192 works, but unset
allowed-enctypes with a manually acquired aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192 
ticket doesn't work.

allowed-enctypes=aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192 works both with an 
automatically acquired service ticket (kinit then ls) and a manually 
acquired service ticket (via kvno -e).

> Can you go back and re-do the tracepoint capture, except this time
> umount your NFS filessytems before starting the capture (i.e. perform
> the mount command while trace-cmd is running).  I'm curious what values
> the rpcgss_update_slack tracepoint shows.

Here are the 2 rpcgss_update_slack occurrences, with a couple lines of 
context. Let me know if you'd like the full report: it's ~1300 lines.

mount.nfs4-1043  [005] .....   190.746932: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000002@00000001 flags=DYNAMIC|NO_ROUND_ROBIN|SOFT|SENT|TIMEOUT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=call_status
mount.nfs4-1043  [005] .....   190.746932: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000002@00000001 flags=DYNAMIC|NO_ROUND_ROBIN|SOFT|SENT|TIMEOUT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=call_decode
mount.nfs4-1043  [005] .....   190.746933: rpc_xdr_recvfrom:     task:00000002@00000001 head=[0xffff8a61a2848fd4,4392] page=0(0) tail=[(nil),0] len=312
mount.nfs4-1043  [005] .....   190.746938: rpcgss_update_slack:  task:00000002@00000001 xid=0xb28269cc auth=0xffff8a6189400798 rslack=19 ralign=11 verfsize=9
mount.nfs4-1043  [005] .....   190.746939: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000002@00000001 flags=DYNAMIC|NO_ROUND_ROBIN|SOFT|SENT|TIMEOUT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=rpc_exit_task
mount.nfs4-1043  [005] .....   190.746939: rpc_task_end:         task:00000002@00000001 flags=DYNAMIC|NO_ROUND_ROBIN|SOFT|SENT|TIMEOUT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=rpc_exit_task
mount.nfs4-1043  [005] .....   190.746940: rpc_stats_latency:    task:00000002@00000001 xid=0xb28269cc nfsv4 EXCHANGE_ID backlog=12836 rtt=136 execute=12995 xprt_id=1
--
mount.nfs4-1043  [002] .....   190.755687: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000001@00000002 flags=MOVEABLE|DYNAMIC|SENT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=call_status
mount.nfs4-1043  [002] .....   190.755687: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000001@00000002 flags=MOVEABLE|DYNAMIC|SENT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=call_decode
mount.nfs4-1043  [002] .....   190.755688: rpc_xdr_recvfrom:     task:00000001@00000002 head=[0xffff8a6182b4e6ac,2920] page=0(0) tail=[(nil),0] len=192
mount.nfs4-1043  [002] .....   190.755691: rpcgss_update_slack:  task:00000001@00000002 xid=0xb68269cc auth=0xffff8a6187759498 rslack=9 ralign=9 verfsize=9
mount.nfs4-1043  [002] .....   190.755694: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000001@00000002 flags=MOVEABLE|DYNAMIC|SENT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=rpc_exit_task
mount.nfs4-1043  [002] .....   190.755694: rpc_task_end:         task:00000001@00000002 flags=MOVEABLE|DYNAMIC|SENT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=rpc_exit_task
mount.nfs4-1043  [002] .....   190.755694: rpc_stats_latency:    task:00000001@00000002 xid=0xb68269cc nfsv4 LOOKUP_ROOT backlog=7101 rtt=91 execute=7218 xprt_id=1


And here's with allowed-enctypes=aes256-cts-hmac-sha384-192

mount.nfs4-1100  [005] .....   580.221598: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000002@00000001 flags=DYNAMIC|NO_ROUND_ROBIN|SOFT|SENT|TIMEOUT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=call_status
mount.nfs4-1100  [005] .....   580.221598: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000002@00000001 flags=DYNAMIC|NO_ROUND_ROBIN|SOFT|SENT|TIMEOUT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=call_decode
mount.nfs4-1100  [005] .....   580.221598: rpc_xdr_recvfrom:     task:00000002@00000001 head=[0xffff8b2b98850fd4,4392] page=0(0) tail=[(nil),0] len=336
mount.nfs4-1100  [005] .....   580.221604: rpcgss_update_slack:  task:00000002@00000001 xid=0x4c050148 auth=0xffff8b2b88864818 rslack=25 ralign=14 verfsize=12
mount.nfs4-1100  [005] .....   580.221605: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000002@00000001 flags=DYNAMIC|NO_ROUND_ROBIN|SOFT|SENT|TIMEOUT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=rpc_exit_task
mount.nfs4-1100  [005] .....   580.221606: rpc_task_end:         task:00000002@00000001 flags=DYNAMIC|NO_ROUND_ROBIN|SOFT|SENT|TIMEOUT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=rpc_exit_task
mount.nfs4-1100  [005] .....   580.221607: rpc_stats_latency:    task:00000002@00000001 xid=0x4c050148 nfsv4 EXCHANGE_ID backlog=13249 rtt=164 execute=13435 xprt_id=1
--
mount.nfs4-1100  [000] .....   580.230841: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000001@00000002 flags=MOVEABLE|DYNAMIC|SENT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=call_status
mount.nfs4-1100  [000] .....   580.230841: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000001@00000002 flags=MOVEABLE|DYNAMIC|SENT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=call_decode
mount.nfs4-1100  [000] .....   580.230841: rpc_xdr_recvfrom:     task:00000001@00000002 head=[0xffff8b2ba07b66ac,2920] page=0(0) tail=[(nil),0] len=204
mount.nfs4-1100  [000] .....   580.230845: rpcgss_update_slack:  task:00000001@00000002 xid=0x50050148 auth=0xffff8b2b88864b18 rslack=12 ralign=12 verfsize=12
mount.nfs4-1100  [000] .....   580.230847: rpc_task_run_action:  task:00000001@00000002 flags=MOVEABLE|DYNAMIC|SENT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=rpc_exit_task
mount.nfs4-1100  [000] .....   580.230847: rpc_task_end:         task:00000001@00000002 flags=MOVEABLE|DYNAMIC|SENT|NORTO|CRED_NOREF runstate=RUNNING|0x4 status=0 action=rpc_exit_task
mount.nfs4-1100  [000] .....   580.230848: rpc_stats_latency:    task:00000001@00000002 xid=0x50050148 nfsv4 LOOKUP_ROOT backlog=7760 rtt=98 execute=7878 xprt_id=1



TWR


             reply	other threads:[~2025-11-18  4:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-18  4:32 Tyler W. Ross [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-11-19 17:19 Tyler W. Ross
     [not found] <176298368872.955.14091113173156448257.reportbug@nfsclient-sid.ipa.twrlab.net>
2025-11-13  5:00 ` Salvatore Bonaccorso
2025-11-13 14:30   ` Chuck Lever
2025-11-13 17:16     ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-13 17:47       ` Chuck Lever
2025-11-13 18:05         ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-13 18:12           ` Chuck Lever
2025-11-13 18:51             ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-13 18:57               ` Chuck Lever
2025-11-13 21:21         ` Salvatore Bonaccorso
2025-11-13 21:23           ` Chuck Lever
2025-11-13 22:20             ` Salvatore Bonaccorso
2025-11-13 22:30               ` Chuck Lever
2025-11-14  4:35                 ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-14  5:09                   ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-14 14:18                     ` Chuck Lever
2025-11-16  0:38                       ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-16 16:29                         ` Chuck Lever
2025-11-16 18:21                           ` Trond Myklebust
2025-11-17  5:19                             ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-17 13:41                               ` Chuck Lever
2025-11-17 18:38                                 ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-17 23:05                               ` Scott Mayhew
2025-11-17 22:54                             ` Scott Mayhew
2025-11-18  4:10                               ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-18 17:52                                 ` Scott Mayhew
2025-11-18 23:43                                   ` Tyler W. Ross
2025-11-19  4:50                                     ` Salvatore Bonaccorso
2025-11-19 13:36                                       ` Scott Mayhew
2025-11-19 20:54                                       ` Simon Josefsson

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