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From: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@csd.uu.se>
To: mru@kth.se (Måns Rullgård)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: hyperthreading
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:45:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16323.12977.677299.198663@alkaid.it.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xptfgd9hc.fsf@kth.se>

Måns Rullgård writes:
 > Gábor Lénárt <lgb@lgb.hu> writes:
 > 
 > >> > flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
 > >> > cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
 > >> > bogomips        : 3334.14
 > >> 
 > >> 
 > >> P4 does not support HT ... only Xeon and new generation P4-HT does.
 > >
 > > OK, but if this CPU does not support HT, then why 'ht' is shown at
 > > flags in /proc/cpuinfo? It looks like quite illogical for me then ...
 > 
 > I've been wondering about that myself.  I'm sure my P4M doesn't have
 > any hyperthreading.

Don't people read Intel docs any more?

- The HT feature flag means "might have HT, check further to make sure".
- "check further" involves checking #siblings >= 2 via CPUID.
  Old P4s typically announce HT but have #siblings < 2.
- Intel made HT enabling a hardware thing via the chipset (a pin
  sampled at reset). BIOS can disable HT but only HW can enable it.
  This is why you can't put a HT-capable P4 in a non-HT-chipset
  machine and expect it to work -- although PowerLeap seemed to
  have an adapter to "fix" that.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-25 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-25  9:44 hyperthreading Gábor Lénárt
2003-11-25  9:48 ` hyperthreading Emiliano 'AlberT' Gabrielli
2003-11-25 10:05   ` hyperthreading Gábor Lénárt
2003-11-25 10:16     ` hyperthreading Arjan van de Ven
2003-11-25 10:32     ` hyperthreading Måns Rullgård
2003-11-25 10:45       ` Mikael Pettersson [this message]
2003-11-29 13:29   ` hyperthreading Bill Davidsen
2003-12-01 10:53     ` hyperthreading Emiliano 'AlberT' Gabrielli
2003-11-25 10:22 ` hyperthreading Karl Pitrich
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-22 12:58 Hyperthreading Nir Soffer
2002-08-22 14:30 ` Hyperthreading Hugh Dickins
2002-08-22  9:15 Hyperthreading Marc Dietrich
2002-08-22 14:06 ` Hyperthreading Hugh Dickins
2002-08-22 14:36   ` Hyperthreading Marc Dietrich
2002-08-21 22:56 Hyperthreading Nakajima, Jun
2002-08-21 23:45 ` Hyperthreading Alan Cox
2002-08-21 11:32 Hyperthreading Reed, Timothy A
2002-08-21 13:48 ` Hyperthreading James Bourne
2002-08-21 17:33   ` Hyperthreading Hugh Dickins
2002-08-21 19:34     ` Hyperthreading James Bourne
2002-08-21 21:16       ` Hyperthreading Kelsey Hudson
2002-08-21 21:55         ` Hyperthreading Banai Zoltan
2002-08-22  8:05           ` Hyperthreading venom
2002-08-26 19:00           ` Hyperthreading Kelsey Hudson
2002-08-22  8:00         ` Hyperthreading venom
2002-08-23  7:28     ` Hyperthreading Gilad Ben-Yossef
2002-08-23  8:10       ` Hyperthreading Hugh Dickins
2002-08-23  8:27         ` Hyperthreading Alan Cox
2002-08-23  8:12       ` Hyperthreading venom
2002-04-18  1:52 Hyperthreading Holzrichter, Bruce
2002-04-17 20:34 Hyperthreading Holzrichter, Bruce
2002-04-17 22:48 ` Hyperthreading Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-18  1:21   ` Hyperthreading James Bourne
2002-04-17 20:02 SMP P4 APIC/interrupt balancing James Bourne
2002-04-17 21:10 ` Hyperthreading Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-17 20:15   ` Hyperthreading Robert Love
2002-04-17 20:23     ` Hyperthreading Dave Jones
2002-04-17 21:24     ` Hyperthreading Jeff V. Merkey
2002-04-17 20:25   ` Hyperthreading James Bourne
2002-04-17 21:26   ` Hyperthreading Jeff V. Merkey
2002-04-18  0:31     ` Hyperthreading Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-18  4:50       ` Hyperthreading Jeff V. Merkey
2002-04-17 22:12   ` Hyperthreading Alan Cox

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