From: Nikita Danilov <Nikita@Namesys.COM>
To: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Cc: Matthias Urlichs <smurf@smurf.noris.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.4-rc2-mm1: vm-split-active-lists
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 19:31:31 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16465.58851.227553.595591@laputa.namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4051D737.1050108@cyberone.com.au>
Nick Piggin writes:
>
>
> Nikita Danilov wrote:
>
> >Nick Piggin writes:
> > >
> >
> >[...]
> >
> > >
> > > By the way, I would be interested to know the rationale behind
> > > mark_page_accessed as it is without this patch, also what is it doing in
> > > rmap.c (I know hardly anything actually uses page_test_and_clear_young, but
> > > still). It seems to me like it only serves to make VM behaviour harder to
> > > understand, but I'm probably missing something. Andrew?
> >
> >With your patch, once a page got into inactive list, its PG_referenced
> >bit will only be checked by VM scanner when page wanders to the tail of
> >list. In particular, if is impossible to tell pages that were accessed
> >only once while on inactive list from ones that were accessed multiple
> >times. Original mark_page_accessed() moves page to the active list on
> >the second access, thus making it less eligible for the reclaim.
> >
> >
>
> With my patch though, it gives unmapped pages the same treatment as
> mapped pages. Without my patch, pages getting a lot of mark_page_accessed
> activity can easily be promoted unfairly past mapped ones which are simply
> getting activity through the pte.
Another way to put it is that treatment of file system pages is dumbed
down to the level of mapped ones: information about access patterns is
just discarded.
>
> I say just set the bit and let the scanner handle it.
I think that decisions about balancing VM and file system caches should
be done by higher level, rather than by forcing file system to use
low-level mechanisms designed for VM, where only limited information is
provided by hardware. Splitting page queues is a step in a right
direction, as it allows to implement more precise replacement for the
file system cache.
Nikita.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-12 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-11 0:04 Nick Piggin
2004-03-11 17:25 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2004-03-12 9:09 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 9:27 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-12 9:37 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 11:08 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-03-12 11:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-12 12:44 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 14:15 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 15:05 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-03-12 15:28 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 16:31 ` Nikita Danilov [this message]
2004-03-12 23:05 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 19:12 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-12 23:23 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 19:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-03-12 23:50 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 21:46 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-12 14:18 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-03-12 14:27 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 19:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-12 15:00 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-03-12 15:13 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 19:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-12 21:17 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-03-12 22:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-12 22:36 ` Mike Fedyk
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