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From: David Mosberger <davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: davidm@hpl.hp.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	bunk@fs.tum.de, eyal@eyal.emu.id.au,
	linux-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.6-rc3: modular DVB tda1004x broken
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 11:30:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16534.36778.587011.400850@napali.hpl.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0405031109520.1589@ppc970.osdl.org>

>>>>> On Mon, 3 May 2004 11:20:35 -0700 (PDT), Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> said:

  Linus> On Mon, 3 May 2004, David Mosberger wrote:

  >>  Why not just disallow user-level use of the _syscall() macros.

  Linus> I'm thinking we should disallow the system-calls
  Linus> entirely. User mode should be using their own macros, and
  Linus> kernel mode should just do the function call directly.

I totally agree.  (Note that syscall() is a libc-provided routine.
The kernel has nothing to do with it.)

  Linus> How much work would that be? I suspect it would be less work
  Linus> than worrying about the existing strange interfaces.

Yes.  On ia64, I held off on getting rid of kernel-internal syscalls
entirely because I was too lazy to do kernel_thread().  However, a
while ago, there was a bug that forced us to implement kernel_thread()
via a direct call.  Lo and behold, the resulting code was not only a
lot faster, but it turned out to be short and clean, too.  Very likely
the situation would be similar for the other architectures that have
been holding off on implementing the kernel syscalls via direct calls.

	--david

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-03 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-28  2:03 Linux 2.6.6-rc3 Linus Torvalds
2004-04-28  8:48 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-28  9:16 ` Florian Schirmer
2004-04-28  9:52   ` Armin Schindler
2004-04-28 11:56 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-05-01 11:24   ` 2.6.6-rc3: gcc 2.95: cx88 __ucmpdi2 error Adrian Bunk
2004-05-01 17:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-01 18:38       ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-01 18:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-04 17:13           ` Gerd Knorr
2004-05-01 20:13   ` 2.6.6-rc3: modular DVB tda1004x broken Adrian Bunk
2004-05-01 22:02     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-05-01 22:14     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-01 22:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-01 23:10       ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-01 23:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-02  0:00           ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-05-02  0:03             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-02  0:28             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-02  0:51           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-02  1:16             ` Paul Mackerras
2004-05-03 18:06             ` David Mosberger
2004-05-03 18:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-03 18:30                 ` David Mosberger [this message]
2004-05-03 18:37                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-03 20:42               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-03 20:56                 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-03 21:07                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-03 22:39                     ` David Mosberger
2004-05-04  7:55                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-04 16:44                         ` David Mosberger
2004-05-04 16:47                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-03 21:02                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-03 21:06                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-03 21:16                   ` viro
2004-05-03 21:24                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-03 21:54                       ` viro
2004-05-03 22:01                         ` viro
2004-05-03 22:33                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-04  0:14                           ` viro
2004-05-04  9:23                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-04 12:13                         ` Stephen Smalley
2004-04-28 14:34 ` Linux 2.6.6-rc3 (compile stats) John Cherry
2004-04-28 17:28 ` Linux 2.6.6-rc3 Maciej Soltysiak
2004-04-29  1:02 ` Craig Thomas
2004-04-29  0:59   ` CaT
2004-04-29 17:10     ` Craig Thomas
2004-04-29  2:11   ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 15:59     ` Craig Thomas
2004-04-29 17:01 ` Jacek Kawa
2004-04-29 17:32   ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-04-30  1:05     ` Jacek Kawa
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     [not found] ` <1PVTx-4rY-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <1R9hC-6rC-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <1Rbjr-7Y5-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <1RbW9-8sE-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-05-01 23:26         ` 2.6.6-rc3: modular DVB tda1004x broken Andi Kleen
2004-05-01 23:34           ` Andrew Morton

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