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From: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@csd.uu.se>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][1/6] perfctr-2.7.3 for 2.6.7-rc1-mm1: core
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:35:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16600.38945.759248.188810@alkaid.it.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040622172025.GA6074@infradead.org>

Christoph Hellwig writes:
 > On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 04:38:06PM +0200, Mikael Pettersson wrote:
 > > Swiching to open() on /proc/<pid>/<tid>/perfctr followed by ioctl()s
 > > would be easy to implement. But people @ LKML are sometimes violently
 > > opposed to ioctl()s, that's why the switch to syscalls happended.
 > 
 > I don't remember the details anymore, but lots of the syscalls could
 > really be read/write on special files.  I'll look through the code again
 > and send out draft API document.

I've thought about this, but the FS with multiple files approach
has several problems:

1. An open file descriptor no longer suffices as a user-space handle.
   This is because we don't have fd = open("%d/file",dirfd) type
   system calls.

2. A mini-fs under /proc/<pid>/<tid>/perfctr/ disappears when the
   process disappears. Currently, a process' perfctr state lives
   as long as references remains, whether via the process task_struct,
   or via some open file descriptor. One use for this is in
   remote-control applications, where it avoids enforcing
   parent/child relationships on monitor/target processes.

Going with a mini-fs is possible (though painful to implement), but
the remote-control feature would have to be constrained to a debugger
like model. In particular, the whole notion of using an fd as a handle
to a state object with its own lifetime would have to be ditched.

/Mikael

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-22 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-31 22:18 Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-22  8:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-22  8:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-22  9:04     ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-22  9:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-22  9:14         ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-22  9:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-22  9:20             ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-22 14:38               ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-22 17:20                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-22 20:35                   ` Mikael Pettersson [this message]
2004-06-22 13:47   ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-22 19:18     ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-22 13:59   ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-22 19:22     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found] <223si-461-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <29Piu-4H4-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-06-22 10:21   ` Andi Kleen

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