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From: "John Stoffel" <stoffel@lucent.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@bitwizard.nl>,
	Romano Giannetti <romano@dea.icai.upco.es>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Driver retries disk errors.
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 10:30:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16695.11922.71461.528204@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1094117369.4852.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>


>> that much would not sound abnormal. (seeks are about 10 times
>> as expensive on CDs). 8 times 8 seconds is a full minute. 

Alan> As I said media players need a way to turn it to no retry

I just ran into this with a scratched CDROM and the program 'grip'
which ended up requiring a reboot of my 2.6.8 kernel to get back
control of /dev/cdrom on my system.  Needless to say, I wasn't very
happy about this.

I really think that we need some way to keep such deadlocks from
happening.  I really dislike having a device lockup a user application
so hard that it can't be exited.  There's no real reason we should be
doing this any more.  If we have to, let the user kill it and just
have the kernel make it into a zombie, but at least let the user kill
it off.

John

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-02 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-30 16:39 Rogier Wolff
2004-08-30 17:46 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-08-30 18:26   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-08-30 22:25     ` Rogier Wolff
2004-08-31 11:38     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-02 16:23       ` Eric Mudama
2004-08-31 15:16     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-30 22:17   ` Rogier Wolff
2004-08-31 11:45 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-31 13:45   ` Andre Hedrick
2004-08-31 13:54   ` Rogier Wolff
2004-08-31 14:12     ` Alan Cox
2004-08-31 15:56       ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-31 15:13         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-31 17:00           ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-31 16:12             ` Alan Cox
2004-09-01 15:18               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-01 14:46                 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-01 18:54                   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-01 15:28               ` Romano Giannetti
2004-09-01 14:44                 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-01 23:14                   ` Rogier Wolff
2004-09-02  9:29                     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-02 10:54                       ` Rogier Wolff
2004-09-02 14:30                       ` John Stoffel [this message]
2004-09-02 14:59                         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-02 16:07                           ` John Stoffel
2004-09-02 16:26                   ` Eric Mudama
2004-08-31 22:55           ` Christer Weinigel
     [not found] <fa.d48te6f.1ol6tbb@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.eti1vu1.2nqlj5@ifi.uio.no>
2004-08-31  0:17   ` Robert Hancock
2004-09-01 23:04     ` Rogier Wolff

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