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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Antonio Vargas <wind@cocodriloo.com>
Cc: Timothy Miller <tmiller10@cfl.rr.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nicoya@apia.dhs.org
Subject: Re: Quick question about hyper-threading (also some NUMA stuff)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:22:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16700000.1050340965@[10.10.2.4]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030414171419.GG14552@wind.cocodriloo.com>

>> Ah, you probably don't want to do that ... it's very expensive. Moreover,
>> if you exec 2ns later, all the effort will be wasted ... and it's very
>> hard to deterministically predict whether you'll exec or not (stupid
>> UNIX  semantics). Doing it lazily is probably best, and as to "nodes
>> would not  have to reference the memory from others" - you're still
>> doing that, you're just batching it on the front end.
> 
> True... What about a vma-level COW-ahead just like we have a file-level
> read-ahead, then? I mean batching the COW at unCOW-because-of-write time.

That'd be interesting ... and you can test that on a UP box, is not just
NUMA. Depends on the workload quite heavily, I suspect.
 
> btw, COW-ahead sound really silly :)

Yeah. So be sure to call it that if it works out ... we need more things
like that ;-) Moooooo.
 
> Not possible for me since I've got no SMP. But posting a quick note about
> your proposed "fake-NUMA-on-SMP.patch" would be good only if to have an
> offsite (offbrain also? ;) backup of your ideas :)

Oh, well basically you just need to split memory in half, and assign one
cpu to each "node" for each cpu_to_node thingy. Would be easy to just do it
as static #defines for sizes at first (most of the work in supporting a new
NUMA arch is just parsing the machinet tables). Set MAX_NUMNODES to > 1,
make sure you create a pgdat for each "node", and frig with build_zonelists
and free_area_init_core a bit. 

M.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-14 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-14 13:31 Timothy Miller
2003-04-14 14:55 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-14 15:29   ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-14 15:39     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-14 15:57       ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-14 16:24         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-14 16:43           ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-14 16:37             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-14 17:14               ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-14 17:22                 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2003-04-14 18:32                   ` cow-ahead N pages for fault clustering Antonio Vargas
2003-04-14 18:47                     ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-15  5:49                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-18 17:35                         ` Antonio Vargas

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