From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: "Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>
Cc: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] suspend: make sync() on suspend-to-RAM optional
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 01:54:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1684935.fYtBRJbzgO@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1A7043D5F58CCB44A599DFD55ED4C948468A7978@fmsmsx115.amr.corp.intel.com>
On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 02:58:22 PM Brown, Len wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Austin S Hemmelgarn [mailto:ahferroin7@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:07 AM
> > To: Pavel Machek; Len Brown
> > Cc: rjw@rjwysocki.net; linux-pm@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> > kernel@vger.kernel.org; Brown, Len
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] suspend: make sync() on suspend-to-RAM optional
> >
> > On 2015-07-15 02:43, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > On Tue 2015-07-14 22:24:51, Len Brown wrote:
> > >> From: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
> > >>
> > >> The Linux kernel suspend path has traditionally invoked sys_sync().
> > >>
> > >> But sys_sync() can be expensive, and some systems do not want
> > >> to pay the cost of sys_sync() on every suspend.
> > >
> > > Have you measured how expensive it can be, and why it is expensive?
>
> > How expensive it is can vary widely, but it pretty much boils down to
> > how much dirty data still needs written out, and how slow the storage it
> > needs written to is. There's not really much that can be done in the
> > kernel to change this, and most userspace suspend systems call sync
> > themselves during the suspend sequence.
>
> Right.
> And now, user-space gets is no longer forced to incur that
> delay on every suspend if they do not want it.
>
> Yes, have measured this under many conditions.
> The bottom line is that sys_sync() is rarely as fast as 1ms,
> and is sometimes as slow as hundreds of ms.
>
> >> Why do you need CONFIG parameter?
>
> So that an OS that doesn't want to change their user-space,
> can build a kernel that does what they want by default.
>
> Originally I had the config parameter remove this code entirely,
> which would achieve the same goal.
> But Rafael prefers the sysfs attribute always exist
> and the config simply set the default.
Indeed.
And so I'm queuing this patch up for 4.3 (with a couple of minor fixups).
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-17 23:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-15 2:24 [PATCH v4 0/1] " Len Brown
2015-07-15 2:24 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Len Brown
2015-07-15 6:43 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-15 14:06 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-07-15 14:58 ` Brown, Len
2015-07-17 23:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2015-07-21 9:38 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-21 14:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-21 15:19 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-21 15:36 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-07-21 20:11 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-21 20:01 ` Brown, Len
2015-07-21 20:05 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-22 1:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-22 7:23 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-22 8:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2015-07-31 16:02 ` Len Brown
2015-07-31 23:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-08 15:50 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-01-23 7:11 Len Brown
2014-01-23 7:29 ` Zhang Rui
2014-01-23 7:41 ` Brown, Len
2014-01-23 7:38 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-01-23 7:59 ` Brown, Len
2014-01-26 21:08 ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-08 6:41 ` Len Brown
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