From: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
Robert Wisniewski <bob@watson.ibm.com>,
Tim Bird <tim.bird@AM.SONY.COM>,
karim@opersys.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] relayfs redux, part 2
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:26:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16894.23610.315929.805524@tut.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050131125758.GA23172@muc.de>
Andi Kleen writes:
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 10:58:22PM -0600, Tom Zanussi wrote:
> > > The logging fast path seems still a bit slow to me. I would like
> > > to have a logging macro that is not much worse than a stdio putc,
> > > basically something like
> > >
> > > get_cpu();
> > > if (buffer space > N) {
> > > memcpy(buffer, input, N);
> > > buffer pointer += N;
> > > } else {
> > > FreeBuffer(input, N);
> > > }
> > > put_cpu();
> > >
> >
> > I think what we have now is somewhat similar, except that we wanted to
>
> It's doing a complicated function call which does who knows what in
> the logging fast path (I stopped reading after some point)
> It definitely is not putc !
>
I agree with your suggestions below, but I just wanted to point out
that the only function called in the fast path is local_add_return(),
which is just a few lines - the more complicated stuff in
switch_buffer() is only called when crossing buffer boundaries.
> > separate grabbing a slot in the buffer from the memcpy because some
> > applications such as ltt want to be able to directly write into the
> > slot without having to copy it into another buffer first. How about
>
> If the inline function to log was fast enough it wouldn't need
> any such hacks.
>
> Note that gcc is quite good at optimizing memcpy, so essentially
> when you e.g. do log(singleint) it should be roughly equivalent
> to a int store into the buffer + the check if there is enough
> buffer space.
>
> > something like this for relay reserve, with the local_add_return()
> > gone since we're assuming the client protects the buffer properly for
> > whatever it's doing:
>
> I think relay_reserve shouldn't be in the fast path at all.
>
> The simple write should simple be the traditional stdio putc pattern
>
> if (buffer + datalen < bufferend) {
> memcpy(buffer, data, datalen);
> buffer += datalen;
> } else {
> flush(buffer, datalen); /* flush takes care of the slow path */
> }
>
> This is quite fast for the fast path and expands to reasonably compact
> inline code too.
>
> The only interesting part is how to protect this against interrupts.
> For that you need an local_irq_save(); local_irq_restore() which
> can be unfortunately quite costly (P4 is really slow at PUSHF)
>
> That is why I would provide a __ variant of the simple
> where the caller guarantees no disruption by interrupts.
>
> On preemptive kernel the local_irq_save takes care of CPU
> preemption, the __ variant should probably disable preemption
> to avoid mistakes. For non __ it is not needed.
OK, makes sense to me - I'll get rid of relay_reserve and replace it
with the simple putc write and variant.
>
> > > This would need interrupt protection only if interrupts can access
> > > it, best you use separate buffers for that too.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean by separate buffers for that too. Can you
> > expand on that a little?
>
> You could avoid the local_irq_save() if you use separate interrupt
> buffers that are only accessed in non nesting interrupt context
> (like softirqs) That would require a sorting step at output though. Not
> sure if it's worth it. The problem is that hardirqs can nest anyways,
> so it wouldn't work for them. However a lot of important code runs
> in softirq (like the network stack) where this is true.
You could just create and log into a separate relayfs channel, if you
wanted to. Not sure we need to add anything special to support that.
Tom
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-31 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-28 19:38 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-28 20:48 ` Tim Bird
2005-01-28 22:24 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-29 8:08 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-30 4:58 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-01-31 12:57 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-31 16:26 ` Tom Zanussi [this message]
2005-01-31 19:41 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-31 21:03 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-01-31 21:12 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-31 19:38 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-29 8:15 ` Greg KH
2005-01-30 5:02 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-01-31 22:10 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-31 22:33 ` Greg KH
2005-01-31 22:35 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-31 23:12 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-01 15:44 ` Tom Zanussi
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