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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: vincent.donnefort@arm.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, vincent.guittot@linaro.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, patrick.bellasi@matbug.net,
	valentin.schneider@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/pelt: Fix task util_est update filtering
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 11:19:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16e1de11-d221-c572-aec7-4e9a638105a9@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210216163921.572228-1-vincent.donnefort@arm.com>

On 16/02/2021 17:39, vincent.donnefort@arm.com wrote:
> From: Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@arm.com>
> 
> Being called for each dequeue, util_est reduces the number of its updates
> by filtering out when the EWMA signal is different from the task util_avg
> by less than 1%. It is a problem for a sudden util_avg ramp-up. Due to the
> decay from a previous high util_avg, EWMA might now be close enough to
> the new util_avg. No update would then happen while it would leave
> ue.enqueued with an out-of-date value.

(1) enqueued[x-1] < ewma[x-1]

(2) diff(enqueued[x], ewma[x]) < 1024/100 && enqueued[x] < ewma[x] (*)

with ewma[x-1] == ewma[x]

(*) enqueued[x] must still be less than ewma[x] w/ default
UTIL_EST_FASTUP. Otherwise we would already 'goto done' (write the new
util_est) via the previous if condition.

> 
> Taking into consideration the two util_est members, EWMA and enqueued for
> the filtering, ensures, for both, an up-to-date value.
> 
> This is for now an issue only for the trace probe that might return the
> stale value. Functional-wise, it isn't (yet) a problem, as the value is
> always accessed through max(enqueued, ewma).

Yeah, I remember that the ue.enqueued plots looked weird in these
sections with stale ue.enqueued values.

> This problem has been observed using LISA's UtilConvergence:test_means on
> the sd845c board.

I ran the test a couple of times on my juno board and I never hit this
path (util_est_within_margin(last_ewma_diff) &&
!util_est_within_margin(last_enqueued_diff)) for a test task.

I can't see how this issue can be board specific? Does it happen
reliably on sd845c or is it just that it happens very, very occasionally?

I saw it a couple of times but always with a (non-test) tasks migrating
from one CPU to another.

> Signed-off-by: Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@arm.com>

Reviewed-by: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-19 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-16 16:39 vincent.donnefort
2021-02-19 10:19 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2021-02-22  9:30   ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-02-19 10:48 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-02-22  9:24   ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-02-25 15:26     ` Vincent Guittot
2021-02-25 16:07       ` Vincent Donnefort

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