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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 19/34] x86: power: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in resume_one_md_table_init()
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2026 16:59:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16e7eb78-f107-4f26-83a8-7e41924659e5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <595e5ba5-0bc4-4630-b8f0-8637298076ce@intel.com>

On 7/13/26 16:38, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 7/13/26 06:55, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
>> @@ -134,11 +129,12 @@ static inline void resume_init_first_level_page_table(pgd_t *pg_dir)
>>  {
>>  #ifdef CONFIG_X86_PAE
>>  	int i;
>> +	pud_t *pud = pud_offset(p4d_offset(pg_dir, 0), 0);
>>  
>>  	/* Init entries of the first-level page table to the zero page */
>>  	for (i = 0; i < PTRS_PER_PGD; i++)
>> -		set_pgd(pg_dir + i,
>> -			__pgd(__pa(empty_zero_page) | _PAGE_PRESENT));
>> +		set_pud(pud + i,
>> +			__pud(__pa(empty_zero_page) | _PAGE_PRESENT));
>>  #endif
>>  }
> 
> If this is the way forward, it's going to require the retraining of some
> awfully old brain cells.
> 
> It also doesn't really read correctly. Loop over each PGD entry:
> 
> 	for (i = 0; i < PTRS_PER_PGD; i++)
> 
> ... and set a pud?
> 
> 		set_pud(...)

The PTRS_PER_PGD is indeed a nasty aspect. Maybe we could clean that up to
exclusively work on PUDs here.

It's already nasty today if you take a look at e.g., patch #22 where we do:

	set_pgd(pgd, __pgd(__pa(pmd_table) | _PAGE_PRESENT));

Or patch #25:

	if (pgd_val(pgd) !=·0) {
		pmd_t *pmd = (pmd_t *)pgd_page_vaddr(pgd);


So yes, we know that we want to set a PMD already in these cases. And using a
PUD is the natural choice :)


> 
> I'm not sure how I'd ever learn the rules to write this code from
> scratch. Right now, the code says: "The pgd_t is the top level of the
> page tables. I know there are PTRS_PER_PGD of those top level entries
> entries I need to 'zero'."
> 
> You don't have to know what is folded, just that you're dealing with the
> top level.
> 
> But *this* code says:
> 
> 1. The pgd_t is the top level of the page tables. Start there.
> 2. "Walk" down *two* (folded) levels
> 3. Set the third-level (pud) entries to 'zero'
> 
> So the code now *has* to know how the folding occurs.
> 
> This seems really hard to work with to me.

It all goes back to the design choice people made to say for folded p4d that

	1) PGD entries are always treated as present page table entries.

static inline int pgd_none(pgd_t pgd)           { return 0; }
static inline int pgd_bad(pgd_t pgd)            { return 0; }
static inline int pgd_present(pgd_t pgd)        { return 1; }
static inline void pgd_clear(pgd_t *pgd)        { }
static inline bool pgd_leaf(pgd_t pgd)          { return false; }

	2) P4D entries are actually what we interpret later.


It kind-of makes sense, because then you have all of the folding happening "on
the top", and not somewhere down the chain.

But yes, ideally we wouldn't have

#define PTRS_PER_P4D            1

I wonder if we could clean that up ...


The good thing is, that the compiler will complain to you if you use the wrong
setter now.

Note the comments we remove in patch #29:

/*
 * (p4ds are folded into pgds so this doesn't get actually called,
 * but the define is needed for a generic inline function.)
 */
#define set_pgd(pgdptr, pgdval) set_p4d((p4d_t *)(pgdptr), (p4d_t) { pgdval })


Doesn't actually get called, right? ;)

-- 
Cheers,

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-13 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-13 13:55 [RFC PATCH 00/34] mm: optimize unnecessary loads due to ptep_get() and friends out Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 01/34] ARM: mm: make nommu pgd_t a scalar Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 02/34] ARM: mm: make 2-level " Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 15:38   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-07-13 16:04     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-13 16:26       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-14 10:26   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-07-14 10:54     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-14 11:55     ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-07-14 13:34       ` David Laight
2026-07-14 15:06         ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-07-14 21:45           ` David Laight
2026-07-15  6:11             ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-07-16 19:04       ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-17  6:16         ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-07-17  7:55           ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-14 12:34   ` David Laight
2026-07-14 13:03     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-15  6:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-07-15  9:41     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-16 10:56     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 03/34] ARM: mm: remove custom pgdp_get() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 04/34] LoongArch: mm: define pud_leaf() only when PUD exists Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 05/34] MIPS: " Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 06/34] mm/pgtable: define (pgd|p4d|pud)_leaf() for folded page tables Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 07/34] mm/pgtable: define (pgd|p4d|pud)_offset_lockless() " Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 08/34] loongarch: kvm: remove stack copy address of pXd in pXd_offset() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 09/34] riscv: " Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 10/34] x86: mm: carve out the generic compile-time folded pgtable case in effective_prot() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 14:19   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-13 14:41     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-13 14:55       ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-13 15:02         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-13 17:57           ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-13 19:49             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-13 20:27               ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-13 21:17                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-13 21:40                   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 10:50                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-14 11:40                       ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-14 14:35                         ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 16:08                           ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-14 16:31                             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-14 18:28                               ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-15  9:43                                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-14 16:51                             ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-14 17:29                               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-14 17:58                                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-15  9:44                                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-16  8:47                                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-15  7:45                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-07-15  9:41                                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-15 10:34                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-07-16  7:49                                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 14:48     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 11/34] mm: vmscan: remove stack copy address of pud pass in wallk_pud_range() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-15 13:44   ` Usama Anjum
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 12/34] arm64: mm: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in kasan_early_init() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 13/34] arm64: mm: define pud_set_huge() when __PGTABLE_PMD_FOLDED not defined Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 14/34] csky: mm: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in vmalloc_fault() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 15/34] mips: mm: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in vmalloc_fault path Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 16/34] nios2: " Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 17/34] riscv: mm: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in vmalloc_fault() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 18/34] riscv: mm: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in setup_vm_final() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 19/34] x86: power: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in resume_one_md_table_init() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 14:38   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-13 14:59     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-13 15:01     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 20/34] x86: kexec: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in machine_kexec_page_table_set_one() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 21/34] x86: platform: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in setup_olpc_ofw_pgd() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 22/34] x86: mm: use proper set_pXd() for generic compile-time folded patable in one_md_table_init() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 23/34] x86: mm: skip pud setup when using generic compile-time folded pagetable Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 24/34] x86: mm: call try_to_free_pmd_page() when CONFIG_PGTABLE_LEVELS > 2 Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 25/34] x86: mm: remove usage of pgd_page_vaddr() for CONFIG_x86_PAE Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 26/34] x86: mm: define pudp_set_access_flags() when CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_PUD is enabled only Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 27/34] m68k: mm: remove usage of pgd_page_vaddr() for CONFIG_PGTABLE_LEVELS=3 Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 28/34] arm: mm: use proper pgtable APIs for generic compile-time folded patable in kasan_init() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 29/34] mm/pgtable: disallow calling folded set_pgd/set_p4d/set_pud Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 30/34] mm/pgtable: disallow calling folded (pgd|p4d|pud)_page, pgd_page_vaddr() and (p4d|pud)_pgtable Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 31/34] mm/pgtable: optimize pmdp_get() and friends for folded pagetable levels Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 32/34] openrisc/pgtable: drop __pmd_offset() Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 33/34] mm/pgtable: catch abuse of folded dummy pgd_t/p4d_t/pud_t Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 34/34] arm64: pgtable: convert pte_present() from macro to static inline Yeoreum Yun
2026-07-13 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 00/34] mm: optimize unnecessary loads due to ptep_get() and friends out David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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