From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1031106AbXDQQCa (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:02:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1031107AbXDQQCa (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:02:30 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.231]:56562 "EHLO wx-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1031106AbXDQQC3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:02:29 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=umV2kH+gWzSpi7bgkjYtcgT3pPsJREhIFl38B6n3ggAPTEP+5bunsw93f6ou2lF3ziNQxIAqq6DTMBkx7PLjlvdwH2b39Ua+WmuFOkrHEI05EoCeKYuQYFFoMrCSdWAC1l8TooCGksx9AnKHQy8on66b9OSqJdc3V6GeTjn+9p0= Message-ID: <170fa0d20704170902i5779f5cv669013fea151f90c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:02:28 -0400 From: "Mike Snitzer" To: ian.murdock@sun.com, "Alan Cox" Subject: Re: ZFS with Linux: An Open Plea Cc: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz_K=B3oczko?=" , "Theodore Tso" , "David R. Litwin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20070417154814.632da1d9@the-village.bc.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070417131045.GB18373@thunk.org> <20070417154814.632da1d9@the-village.bc.nu> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 4/17/07, Alan Cox wrote: > > So who is responsible for potential changing Linux code licensing for > > allow if not incorporate CDDL code correct interraction without breaking > > some law ? > > Every single contributor, individually. Which won't happen. > > The real test of whether Sun were serious about ZFS being anywhere but > Solaris is what they do to license it - they've patented everything they > can, and made the code available only under licenses incompatible with > other OS products. Their intent is quite clear, and quite sad. > > Compare it to what the old Sun company did with NFS, which is now a > standard used everywhere. > > If Sun want ZFS to get used all over the place in free software then I'd > have expected at the very least to see them throw out a copy of the code, > docs and patent grant in a form that could be used, even if it came with > no other assistance of any kind. Now would be a great time to do that, > but I can't see it happening, instead they'll miss the boat just as > microsoft did with Office XML (three years ago they'd have sailed it > through ISO to the sound of fanfairs) Maybe Ian Murdock could weigh in on this given his new position at Sun. Ian? BTW, congrats on the new gig...