From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751890AbWFLLhE (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:37:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751891AbWFLLhE (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:37:04 -0400 Received: from mail.clusterfs.com ([206.168.112.78]:33420 "EHLO mail.clusterfs.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751890AbWFLLhC (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:37:02 -0400 From: Nikita Danilov MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17549.20672.508670.57631@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:32:16 +0400 To: David Miller Cc: folkert@vanheusden.com, matti.aarnio@zmailer.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel In-Reply-To: <20060611.115430.112290058.davem@davemloft.net> References: <20060610222734.GZ27502@mea-ext.zmailer.org> <20060611160243.GH20700@vanheusden.com> <1150048497.14253.140.camel@mindpipe> <20060611.115430.112290058.davem@davemloft.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (patch 17) "chayote" (+CVS-20040321) XEmacs Lucid Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org David Miller writes: > From: Lee Revell > Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:54:57 -0400 > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 18:02 +0200, Folkert van Heusden wrote: > > > Hmmm. > > > What about using spamhaus.org sbl+xbl list? > > > I used to receive 1200 spam messages a day, with spamhaus only half of > > > that. > > > > What about doing nothing? The percentage of spam on LKML is vanishingly > > small. > > We definitely need a better spam solution at vger, the reason is that > the current mechanism (ad-hoc by-hand regexp blocking) creates lots of > problems. For one thing, it means that people with names in languages > other than english get blocked when their emails are quoted in > postings. This is because we don't understand a lot of languages, so > we just regexp block multibyte characters typically assosciated with > that language in order to block spam written in that language. > > That isn't acceptable in the long term. Why? So far people managed to transcribe their names into English alphabet without much trouble (and ado). Nikita. (see? I do.)